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what happens when you're too close to the mic

I'm using cool edit pro to record, and i just realized when i say words with hard "k" sounds, like "cool" or "cat", it sounds bad in the mic, does anyone know how to fix that?:mad:


Big K Sat, 05/22/2010 - 01:54
OK.... if a pop filter doesn't help, you have a
Make it a thicker sock... or use a fast limiter/ compressor or guide the singer to work on his technique
which seems necessary, anyhow, if it doesn't happen with more singers. If this is a common "feature" of your setup
consider a serious upgrade of your gear.

anonymous Sat, 05/22/2010 - 03:45
i was using a pop filter, and tried adjusting the mic , and backing up, and the sound still was there.

i figured out how to fix it manually,

i just zoom in on the beginning of the word that has the "k" sound, and de amplify it, like 10 db, and it sounds perfect . However, u say high frequency equalization, what way is there to remedy the problem without high frequency equalization???

Big K Sat, 05/22/2010 - 06:34
lol .... I have something like that to keep the door open when airing the studio..

Sorry, could not resist...

Have you tried any other mic on it, yet? You might not have a mic pre, though.
Is the power supply of the PC strong and reliable? Maybe it is down to its knees and can't deliver enough juice to the Samson.
But we are just guessing. Please, list your gear, here. It would really help to know what you are working with.

boxcar Sat, 05/22/2010 - 08:06
Massive Mastering, post: 348566 wrote: Pop filters attenuate large bursts of air - That's it. Won't do a thing in this situation (nothing will except a vocalist that knows not to do that).
couldn't agree more.
good pronounciation is key and also the arrangements. sometimes when im writing and i use a word i have problems with, i'll re-write that line a different way so it slips off the tongue better or replace that word completely.

for instance:
"i know a cat" might slip off the tongue easier than "a cat i know".

BobRogers Sat, 05/22/2010 - 11:48
Massive Mastering, post: 348566 wrote: Pop filters attenuate large bursts of air - That's it. Won't do a thing in this situation (nothing will except a vocalist that knows not to do that).
I'm with you on a vocalist learning how to sing plosive consonants correctly (the shape of the vowel after the plosive is key). But the whole point of a plosive is that it causes a large burst of air -so a pop filter can be a help. Hold your hand in front of your mouth and work with the consonants k, b, t, p. You will feel the blast of air. Note that it goes in a different direction for different consonants - so mic position can help avoid the blast as well.

Massive Mastering Sat, 05/22/2010 - 22:07
If a "K" sound is causing a burst of air, there's something seriously wrong with your soft palate.

I suppose a "KUH" might have a bit of air behind it, but a popper-stopper is going to do nothing for the whip-like crack of a hard "K" sound from the tongue snapping away from the soft palate... Technically, it probably creates a small temporary vacuum.

BobRogers Sun, 05/23/2010 - 04:28
Well I don't know how yalls talk in Chicago, but in the rest of the world the [[url=http://[/URL]="http://en.wikipedia…"]"voiceless velar plosive"[/]="http://en.wikipedia…"]"voiceless velar plosive"[/] [k] is formed by blocking an explosion of air from the lungs using the back of the tongue against the soft pallet. Not as big a burst of air as a [p] but definitely there.

RemyRAD Sun, 05/23/2010 - 16:14
This sounds like a gain matching issue. There must be a mixer control panel for adjusting recording level, pass through monitoring level, playback level. And these sibilant sounds are hard to deal with. A lot of this has to do with microphone placement and the voice actor themselves. Recording gay men presents its own problems because of the sibilance. This is why we also use a device called a "De-Esser". These are both available in hardware devices and in virtually all software dynamics processing areas. This simply lowers the volume dynamically between 3000 Hz & 7000 Hz where the sibilant frequencies generally fall. But if you're getting a hard clicking sound that simply overload, software overload generally. Crunchy sounds are hardware overload. Believe me it's operator. You'll get the hang of it soon enough.

Funny? I haven't seen any 24 USB microphone input mixers yet?
Mx. Remy Ann David