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$30,000 Gear Budget-Will The Pro's Take me Serious?

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OLD Gear List:
-Console- Digidesign C|24-$9000
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C24/
-Mic- (Thinking Neumann)-$2000
-Monitors-(Thinking Dynaudio) -$1000
-Preamp- Digidesign PRE- $2000
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DigiPre/
-Interface-(Thinking Apogee) -$2500
-Computer- Mac Pro- $3000
-Desk- Sound Construction C|24 Desk- $3000 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SWC24S1-2/
-Cables-(Straight Mogami!)-$1000
-Foam-(Straight Auralex)- $1,500

NEW Gear List:
Digidesign C|24 - $8,000
Mic - $2,000
Monitors - $1,000
Digidesign Interface - $2,000
Desk - $3,000
Mogami Cables - $600
Auralex acoustic treatment - $1,000
Computer - $2,000
headphones, Stand, Pop Filter, Chair etc- $400

Now thats $20,000.. More sensible eh..

One of my main concerns is the console that i chose... Because I'm not dropping $40,000 on a SSL board or a Neve.. Because honestly, I don't feel i really need one.
Do you think it will be a turn off for musicians who are used to recording in the studios with the million-fader consoles?
I'm confident in my sound regardless, I'm positive nothing but grade-A quality bangers will come out of my lab.

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Space Wed, 11/05/2008 - 13:04
I'm not one of the Pros, I'm one of the con's.

Why would you get a board with pre's and then spend xtra money on more of the same type pre's?

Also, a grand for cables? 3K for a desk? You rob a bank? This is, ah, no wait, let's see, stu...no, not it, um, foo, no, fiscally retrograde?

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MrPhaSe Wed, 11/05/2008 - 13:28
Aha.. Looking back a G for cables is a lil crazy lol..
But yeah, 3k for a desk bro.
Thanks for the feed though, thats exactly what i needed.. see now i'm rethinking my budget and where i should spend the money..

And na i didnt rob a bank.. Let's just say i've been saving a while to finally open up the studio i've been dreaming of

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RemyRAD Wed, 11/05/2008 - 13:31
It sounds like you're getting all of your bar mitzvah money together?

Just like the previous poster said, you've already got 16 unremarkable microphone preamps in your new Digi designed control surface. So instead of purchasing more of the same, get yourself a few esoteric microphone preamps that will actually sound like something. Something better than the watered-down neutered sound of those 16 you already have.

You understand this is not your last purchase? This is only the beginning.

It's a sickness I tell you... A sickness
Ms. Remy Ann David

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MrPhaSe Wed, 11/05/2008 - 13:40
No Joke,
I've been recording at my house for like 3 years... Haven't stopped buying and dreaming of equipment since.

I just threw that budget together on the spot btw.. I'm changing up some of the decisions as I type..

Any more constructive criticism?

Thanks

And black people DON'T have barmitzphas

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Member Wed, 11/05/2008 - 15:21
Pay a rap star 20k to appear on a single...pay a composer 3k for a bomb rap beat...pay a video guy 3k to capture a homemade video and pay 2k for a website to sell ringtones and single downloads and invest your windfall on an appropriate studio with api or neve desk and hd3 in a house you pay cash for...oh, and start a label as well..... You owe me for this consultation!

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sweeterstudios Fri, 01/16/2009 - 08:14
Pootkao wrote: Pro's will respect the quality of your work, not the quality of your gear.
I agree with this comment, however the sad part about todays musicians and some professionals are that before even listening to your work they sometimes like to see some of the "standard high end gear" and wont even go to you if you don't have certain "standards". Sometimes this means having Pro Tools or Neuman, or Apogee, Mac, Genelec/ Dynaudio. These are all just brand names. In todays world were some musicians think they know all about recording gear and stuff. I have found it harder and harder to sell them on the recording with out at least some of the standards. Not to say that the brands that I mentioned earlier are just names, because in reality they actually do sound alot better then other products, however alot of people do high end quality work with about 30k with out the need of the
1/2 million dollar SSL or Neve console. So long as you do quality work with some standard equipment for "those" people you'll be fine!

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Member Thu, 01/01/2009 - 08:34
antoniosolo wrote: Pay a rap star 20k to appear on a single...pay a composer 3k for a bomb rap beat...pay a video guy 3k to capture a homemade video and pay 2k for a website to sell ringtones and single downloads and invest your windfall on an appropriate studio with api or neve desk and hd3 in a house you pay cash for...oh, and start a label as well..... You owe me for this consultation!



Im gonna use that info, sounds like a plan to me,

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Member Thu, 01/01/2009 - 08:39
that sounds like a good set up, but if you put all that money in it your gonna want to make some of that back maybe all of it!....get something a lil more simple "but good" and invest a majority of that money in good quality promotin, thats what i would do, cause you ont want to see your money collecting dust in a studio thats gonna get used every now and then, and not get use of properly. your smarter than that,..getting clients to pay for that session is another ballpark, lol

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sweeterstudios Tue, 01/13/2009 - 09:51
Neuman mics i feel are over rated except a U87 which can be added to the list of mics I mentioned but will also set them back an additional $3000 and is nice to have but the other Mics I mention such as The 2x C414s ( matched stereo pair) and SE Electronics Gemmini are Great sounding standard mics. Also what a lot of people don't know is that The Maker of SE Electronics mics broke away from Neuman and are of a similar caliber. Not to undermine Neuman but you can get all three of the mics I mention for the price of 1 U87 and sound pretty awsome.

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TopherNeverDies Thu, 11/06/2008 - 05:23
Anywhere you can save money is a good idea. I'd skip the fancy desk for now and make your own or buy a cheap one. Also you should probably state what kind of music you are planning on doing. 2000 dollars for mics isn't very much and Remy is right about the preamps. It's nice to have different kinds of paint and paint brushes to make masterpieces with.

Respectfully,
Christopher

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song4gabriel Thu, 01/08/2009 - 22:19
i dont wanna be the buzzkill for your dreams (and good luck with your new business!) but spend some tim kicking around forums, or better yet-studios- to get a better idea of where your money should go.

it does appear (no offense), you are going for style over substance. its understanable- just remember-studios that look sexy might have nothing on the inside (i had an ex like this)


MY advice is DONT BUY ANYTHING for at least a few weeks. give yourself some time to learn what it takes to be a successful studio owner/engineer.

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