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1/32 grid and swing quantise

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Hoping someone can enlighten me... I have a nice groove going with programmed from scratch drums in Cubase using XLN Addictive drums... all done on a 1/16 note grid... have set the real time quantise midi insert with a good feeling swing setting... and all is cool.
However there are some fills I'd like to write in, plus some subtle little hits, that need a 1/32 note grid... so my question is (and I can't find ANY info online)... exactly how does 'swing' work with 1/32 note quantise grid rather than 1/16 note. All the examples, guidelines I can find are with 1/16 note grid.
At the moment what happens is that if I set the Cubase 'part' grid to 1/32 note, the existing 'swung' quantise just effectively 'ignores' (as in doesn't play at all) the beats that are not on one of the 1/16 note positions?
The overall groove is just as I like it so am hoping I can keep that but also have some of my little 'fiddly' beats too!

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pcrecord Wed, 05/31/2017 - 07:11
If you quantise at 1/16 notes they will be all aligned to 1/16 notes like if they couldn't go faster.
If you want 1/32 notes, you can put them on a different midi track that won't be affected by the quantise insert

Also, you could have planned ahead and make your tempo double time.. For exemple a song at 80bpm would be recorded on a 160bpm project so all the 1/16 notes become 1/8 notes etc... Doing so also help with counting slow songs because the metronome counts the 1/8 notes.
Assuming all that is in #/4

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Nigel Sat, 06/03/2017 - 10:03
pcrecord, post: 450663, member: 46460 wrote: If you quantise at 1/16 notes they will be all aligned to 1/16 notes like if they couldn't go faster.
If you want 1/32 notes, you can put them on a different midi track that won't be affected by the quantise insert

Also, you could have planned ahead and make your tempo double time.. For exemple a song at 80bpm would be recorded on a 160bpm project so all the 1/16 notes become 1/8 notes etc... Doing so also help with counting slow songs because the metronome counts the 1/8 notes.
Assuming all that is in #/4
Thanks very much, I see what you mean and yes indeed if I'd had a plan that would have been a good one! Of course it was only something that arose in the middle of the process. Still wondering though what (if any) the effect of 'swing' is on 1/32 notes/grid is... perhaps some experimentation is in order...

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pcrecord Sat, 06/03/2017 - 16:31
Nigel, post: 450702, member: 50615 wrote: Thanks very much, I see what you mean and yes indeed if I'd had a plan that would have been a good one! Of course it was only something that arose in the middle of the process. Still wondering though what (if any) the effect of 'swing' is on 1/32 notes/grid is... perhaps some experimentation is in order...
I thought I told you. If you record 1/32 notes and you quantise them at 1/16 every notes will be rendered to the nearest 1/16 beat... ;)

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Nigel Sat, 06/03/2017 - 17:43
pcrecord, post: 450703, member: 46460 wrote: I thought I told you. If you record 1/32 notes and you quantise them at 1/16 every notes will be rendered to the nearest 1/16 beat... ;)
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant if I have the quantise insert set at 1/32 beat and then apply the swing on notes/beats also recorded on 1/32. Would it operate in the same way, i.e. push every other 1/32 note towards the following one. A kind of of 'finer resolution' type of swing?... Perhaps I have answered my own question!?
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