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I have tried sennheisers new mic MKH 8020 now in afternoon, and this is what we recorded.
Next week I shall try DPA:s 4003 and 4006TL side by side on my tripodstand and make a interesting A-B test.

Something about the Sennheiser mic, i think its a weery good mic :)

It will become interesting to compare Sennheiser MKH 8020 against DAP:s 4003 and 4006TL



anonymous Fri, 01/25/2008 - 12:27

Cucco wrote: If the 8020 is anything like the MKH800

In what sense? They are entirely different (as I'm sure you are aware of), true pressure transducer vs. dual diaphragm SDC...

And I'd also like to hear some more details about these recordings. They seem to have been made at a good distance from the organ.

I wonder why Seenheiser appear to have dropped the free/diffuse field switch of the MKH20.


_basso_ Fri, 01/25/2008 - 15:29

I have done little changes, made new mp3 in higher resolution, is there any changes in the sound, what do you think ?

I do not have access to Schoeps CMC6-MK2S, so i can't make any a-b test between DPA and Schoeps

The recording was made with Fireface 800 and Apogee MP on MKH 8020 and my "little" laptop Dell XPS M2010 with Win-vista ultimate :shock:

BRH Sat, 01/26/2008 - 21:38

"The capsules really haven't been the issue - it's been the equalization circuitry on board. I've found the MKH800s and the MKH20/40 to be too unrealistic in the mid range providing a sort of euphoric sense to everything. They haven't been my taste in mics since the beginning."

Cucco, yes, I've heard others refer to Senn. sounding like this.
Sounds processed already. Good if that's what you want. Not good if ya don't.

_basso_ Sun, 01/27/2008 - 16:35

New soundfiles is coming out tomorrow, its a new recording with DPA 4003 and MKH 8020.
It's a tremendous difference from my last recording, please forget my last recording.:oops:

This recording is maybe to close to the organ, i did not had the energy to
move my tripod in the middle of the night.

Hmm, something seems to be broken in my Fireface 800?
It's lose all communication with my computer when i touch
the volume knob

aracu Tue, 01/29/2008 - 20:57

I recently made a comparison of recording a classical guitarist in a small sound absorbant room, comparing a Royer sf24 with two Senn800 placed
further away set to cardioid, and also comparing the sound of the mics
added together. The Royer sounded near perfect and warm on it's own, while the Sennheisers sounded impressive initially but on carefull listening they were less accurate than the Royer on small details, and with an emphasis in higher frequencies which gets tiring, and they did not seem to
improve the Royer by blending them with it. On another recent recording of classical piano and guitar, recorded with Senn800's and an AKG426, the mics combined together sounded better than either on it's own, as the two different mic characters complimented one another creating a full and accurate sound.

Cucco Thu, 01/31/2008 - 14:15

How do you feel the mics have represented the instrument coupled with the room?

I like this recent batch of recordings but find the low end to hang a little and the top trumpet pipes to be a bit forward. Is this how it sounds in the room?

Don't get me wrong, I'd still pay for the recordings - they're still quality. I literally just mean to ask how you feel this set of recordings represents the instrument.

If perfectly, then I'd say you've found a match made in heaven. If otherwise...well, it's still not a bad set. ;-)

_basso_ Thu, 01/31/2008 - 15:17

My personal thought, i have never use microphones on this level, that can capture a church organ like this. :)

It does not sound exactly like this in the church, it's a short cathedral, but it is very high to ceilings.

When I buy these microphones or 4003, I shall put more time to place out microphones and be more careful
with my headphones, they can really swindled my ears.

And thanx for your time and that you take time to listen on my recordings.

I have upload some more files, enjoy this fantastic musician 8-)

Cucco Thu, 01/31/2008 - 17:15

Absolutely. And please don't think I was criticizing the recording itself. I think it sounds fantastic.

I'll agree regarding headphones and pipe organ. I've found that while recording pipe organ, a full range monitor system is crucial to getting the microphones set up correctly. Earphones lie way too much.


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