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I am attempting to set up a decent recording rig in my bedroom to make some demos. I play primarily guitar (metalcore/post hxc) and also some screaming vocals. So far I'm planning on getting a Behringer Europoer pmp 2000 http://www.Behringe…"]BEHRINGER: PMP2000[/]="http://www.Behringe…"]BEHRINGER: PMP2000[/]
and I already have a Marshall half stack. I don't know what would be best to do, connect monitors to the output or just straight up connect the bridge channel into my cab (will that even work? Because the mic and guitar would both be mono, idk..)

The other thing I can't figure out is once I hook that up how do I record? because there's only one speakon output (or two for stereo).

Can someone tell me what I need to get to make this setup work? I'm completely lost. Oh btw I have about 1000 dollars remaining in my budget so please no overtly complicated setups.


TheJackAttack Fri, 12/24/2010 - 13:31

That PMP2000 is useless for recording. You need at the least a USB mixer. If you insist on using Behr**** then go back and look at their "recording" mixers and not a powered live mixer.
So to recap:
Guitar and/or mic goes into a usb interface/mixer.
Interface/mixer goes into the computer program (DAW).
The DAW is where you "mix" and tweak.

Jeemy Fri, 12/24/2010 - 15:06

Oh wow there's this guy in the Home Studio Mastering forum with a tutorial on how to do just this! No wait wait, j/k.

$1,000 and passable guitar sounds are possible. But you need to read up some theory - putting monitors into the output of a PA mixer and connecting stuff into your cab is NOT the way to go.

Behringer bears absolutely no resemblence to anything you would possibly need.

What you need to buy at first:

A computer recording interface with at least one preamp and a USB or ideally Firewire connection onwards to the computer.

2 ways to go here. A Line 6 product or Guitar Rig will get you totally usable guitar sounds and plenty of variation. But it won't help with your vocals and you might end up outta budget on those.

The other option which will be longtermly better but harder to get good results on guitar with is a simple recording interface (get a TC Electronic, John recommends them, I have little experience in the current spread of USB interfaces but what I can say with 100% certainty is, don't be tempted by the wild claims of B*hringer etc. You could also look into an EMU if you are running a PC or an Apogee Duet if you are running a Mac - but do not look at other brands unless told to by somebody who's been here more than 5 years!) - this will run you about $500 either way, and then you will need a Shure SM57 dynamic mic: $100. This will work fine for your style of vocals and for the guitar stack.

I presume you already have a computer. This will get your sound in - if you go with mic/interface, or guitar-based interface, this will get you going.

The next choice is how to get your sound out - 2 choices - go for a pair of $150 headphones and spend the remaining $350 on DAW (Reaper), cables, and software plugs, or spend $500 on a set of monitor speakers (Mackie, Yamaha, Genelec, Dynaudio - look carefully for a bargain but $500 is minimum spend on monitors otherwise you are basically flushing your cash).

More than happy to continue helping you through this process, but you will need to post proper information on the route you wish to take. I will say that basically you get to sort the vocals or the guitar to a good level for $1,000, but you will not sort both to your satisfaction. This does of course depend on your final end target in terms of quality, but as a guide rule, most purchases sub $500-1000 will ultimately be stopgaps.

However for demo quality product there will be a way of spending $1000 to get you totally happy, assuming you are OK with a computer and read up a bit on the theory.

Please don't rush into any purchases claiming to offer you 24 world-class multieffects patches for $80 though as the cash can get sucked away quick.

anonymous Fri, 12/24/2010 - 16:57

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Luckily I already have a pair of beyerdynamic headphones and a sennheiser 945 so I'm set there. Don't worry, I'm not going to even get any effect patches. I'm about to purchase a mesa boogie triple rectifier so I'll have my analog sound dialed. And this is for demo purposes anyway so it doesn't have to be pristine.

Thank you once more for saving me a lot of wasted time and money, you guys are phenomenal.

TheJackAttack Fri, 12/24/2010 - 17:33

The Presonus line is good value for the money. For some honest to goodness free VST patches you can go to [[url=http://[/URL]="…"]GVST[/]="…"]GVST[/]. The combination of both will be quite good enough for a basic demo.

None of us here approve of Behr8**'s business model or oft times stealing of other designs. Additionally, the quality of that gear is often very very shoddy. Sometimes a particular piece works ok but often as not there are issues. They are made to be disposed of quite frankly. As such, we don't want search engines to grab that particular name and associated with so we don't spell it out. It isn't a rule per se, and the world won't be in danger like saying "Voldemort" so you can if you want.


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