jamie Lofts, post: 461407, member: 51509 wrote: I don't want to spend too much time explaining things so I will keep it short. I've had youtube for around 12 years and posted up improvised solo's over backing tracks and really raw acoustic tracks of my original songs just for copyright and backup (never really tried to push YouTube fame). I've had a bad couple of years and been on and off with my music but managed to get through 45 (vocals to be done) and I've started recording original instrumentals. So I've posted my two instrumentals and decided to polish up my YouTube account and noticed a very old acoustic song (original) was flagged for copyright. The song is called, 'Maneater'. It's nothing to do with the Hall and Oates song. Lyrics are completely different and the song sounds completely different. They have took the one word from the title and chorus and flagged it. Apparently I could lose my YouTube account which holds 75 videos if I go into dispute. Well I have took the risk because I think it's a load of bleep. I have have told them to listen to both songs and if the copyright is about the title then what about, The power of love? When you are down, you just seem to get kicked harder. Sorry for the long posted and venting but......

I'm certain you cannot copyright a title of a song. There are a lot of songs with the same title. Sounds like Youtube BS to me. Fighting with them will likely get you nowhere.

Welcome to the modern media conundrum :-/. They, all social style media, are running scared and clueless still. As Chris says though, no, they cannot copyright a title or word, technically of course two words ;). Lol.

Tony

It's not just you, Jamie. Hang in there.

I had YouTube flag a video of mine as well, which immediately got my Google+ account suspended (temporarily). The video I tried to post was a song, 100% original material, an acoustic guitar and one vocal - no backing tracks, no samples, no nothing. It was a simple performance video that wouldn't have been offensive to anyone, or infringed on anyone else's copyright. (yet I see YT videos all the time of people at concerts etc.)

I got an automated response with a couple examples of things that will get your post flagged (and account suspended), but no explanation as to which one of those things triggered the red flag. I read through their "User Content and Conduct Policies", absolutely none of the violations applied (not even close). I went through their appeal process and could never get a human to review it, or respond with any specific (or even general) reason whatsoever. After everything was said and done they did reinstate the G+ account, the video never got uploaded - and as Chris would say, fighting them got me nowhere.

For a company that's based on clever algorithms, Google has still got a lot to learn about resolving this kind of dispute.

Well it's a case of wait out 30 days and see what happens. What really grinds my gears (too much family guy) people can upload videos of let's say sports and put any track they want to them but a musician who writes and records their own songs can get frowned on for nothing. It just means I can't upload anything now because it may become pointless if my account does get deactivated. Do musicians have other options to get their songs/videos noticed. I don't want to change the topic too much but I'm asking just incase it all goes tits up.

So here we have it. Apparently Warner Chappell can own the rights to titles and youtube are allowing them. Nobody has listened to the song because if they had, they wouldn't be doing this.

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So here we have it. Apparently Warner Chappell can own the rights to titles and youtube are allowing them. Nobody has listened to the song because if they had, they wouldn't be doing this.

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That sh*t is ridiculous. You Tube apparently loves stepping on the person with less lawyers. Gross.

Man, that's idiotic. You got more of an explanation that I did with my mystery violation.

I didn't want to do this but here is my song. It's 11 years old a little crappy but it was a raw take just to get it copyrighted (that seems laughable now). It's not for everyone but at least you all know what you are up against has a musician using YouTube.

Jennifer Rush, Huey Lewis and Frankie Goes to Hollywood had no problems with sharing a title. if you had the money, you could fight and win - but they have the money to stall and break you for years. move on.

My tribute band had one of our live versions taken down because it was identified as an original - we thought that rather cool, justification that we really do sound like the band we're a tribute to.