i refuse to live in fear. that's what they want.

my personal felling is we should just let the Muslims have it all in the Middles East. get our nose out of it. then they will have nothing to do except kill each other. that's what they do when they have no external enemies. they turn inward with the violence. once they kill each other then there will be peace. we should learn to get by without the oil anyway.

Kurt Foster, post: 418700, member: 7836 wrote: i refuse to live in fear. that's what they want.

my personal felling is we should just let the Muslims have it all in the Middles East. get our nose out of it. then they will have nothing to do except kill each other. that's what they do when they have no external enemies. they turn inward with the violence. once they kill each other then there will be peace. we should learn to get by without the oil anyway.

Well said, but I don't think it is going to go away that easy. I fear for you guys down there. Shit is going to happen.
If we got off oil, it would most likely go exactly like you see, Kurt! I can't agree more.

But these money sucking oil based industries can't let go of their interests, all at the expense of world health.
Canada is turning into another oil producing pig.

And what ever happened to the concept of building something to last a lifetime rather than timing its demise, so we keep coming back for the new and improved.

I hate it all.
We are building an economy that puts our kids out of business, no wonder its all going nuts.

Houses in Vancouver start at $500.000.
I have friends who are in debt up to a Million. And they have 2 cars, insurance and are eating industrial food owned by the drug companies who have interest in realestate, mining and oil. Food with nothing in it. People are eating chemical like candy and dumping it all back in the water and so it goes... .
The animals are sick and the air is full of what? We just has a massive Talings "LAKE" break and dump millions of meters of corrupted liquid into one of the worlds largest salmon runs.
How can anyone think clearly with all this BS? And we keep rushing where?

Its a nightmare. I'm trying to drop out and stay away from the city but how do we get away. Need oil to do everything.
I can't imagine what people are living like in some of those middle east countries. So much anger and hate. Ultimatums. Religion, gilt , mind control, marketing and consumerism, its all nuts to me.
Now this tribe looking like ninja's right out of a movie...

I have said to anyone who will ever listen, you have to treat terrorists how they treat you. Terrorise them!. Diplomatic solutions, courtesy etc do not apply with these sorts of people. It's no good being Mr Nice Guy. But, that's the Aussie in me ;).

Ultimately, those who cause all these various these problems will push it until the planet crashes.

Then they will have the 'solution' for the survivors.

"If you want to see the future, just imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell[[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.brainyqu…"] [/]="http://www.brainyqu…"] [/]

the 'solution' for the survivors. I like that John. I often wonder if thats what this whole Mar's thing is about too.
I'm sitting here looking out at my garden and lake. I'm good if it all goes down for a few years but the air does look like its getting hazier every year.
How do ex marines think today? Still supporting your country or are people so fed up?

Don't know about the Marines (who does?) LOL!

But to me, the important thing to remember is that the masses have been lied to for a very long time to get us to accept these things as inevitable. We have been lied to to get our (democratic) support for wars and killings, etc.

Think of this: Most people think we (the USA) entered World War II when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

It wasn't leaked until the mid-70s that we (the USA) had been torpedoing Japanese civilian ships for two years, all the while maintaining a public face of isolationism.

In the end, we nuked them.

How's that for BS?

keep talking?

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Makzimia, post: 418704, member: 48344 wrote: you have to treat terrorists how they treat you. ;).

Notice how few Israeli planes get hijacked? It's because the Israeli gov't will destroy the plane themselves. Happened 2-3 times in the 70s and the terrorists stopped trying.

audiokid, post: 418689, member: 1 wrote:
I hope the USA and the rest of the world deals with this barbaric insanity….

What is ISIS doing this for? No one is explaining why?

Canada would welcome to join in.

They would like to return to the Caliphate system of 500+ years ago. [one of many [[url=http://[/URL]="http://time.com/285…"]Time Magazine Article[/]="http://time.com/285…"]Time Magazine Article[/]s]

It seems to me that throughout history, more people have died in the name of religion than anything else. It also seems to me a benevolent, loving God would be grieved.

I believe we are preparing as are many other countries. This is going to be nasty no matter how it unfolds. And it looks like there are Russian issues unfolding too. I think we should deal with ISIS using the most deadly force. Fast.
I'm sure we all agree, we all have issues with big business and government but this shit needs to stop. I also think we need to be prepared in our local communities. I'm not taking this round lightly.

Thanks for the links, Dave, I'll read them.
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Thomas Ricks, who covered the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq for the Washington Post and named his bestselling account of the subject Fiasco, says the current crisis in Iraq was set in motion over a decade ago. “I think that the U.S. invasion fundamentally unbalanced Iraq, and the Middle East,” Ricks tells TIME in an e-mail. “By removing Sunni power in Baghdad we increased Iran’s influence in the country–and so provoked a Sunni backlash. Big picture, I think we may be seeing the beginning of the re-drawing of the map, this time done by residents of the region instead of by British and French diplomats.”

Better said, we opened up a Pandora Box

Having worked for NBC-TV news for nearly 20 years, I've got the solution to the problem.

Since the Israelis are important allies to the United States, United States needs to protect Israel. But we can't protect Israel while they are in the Middle East. So the United States has to tell the Israelis that we will be relocating all Israelis. They will have to vacate Israel. But we've got the perfect place to relocate them to. Where their neighbors won't want to kill them. It's a nice little peninsula country, about the same size as Israel, just a little colder. It's called, Long Island, New York. Where all their other neighbors will also be Jewish.

Because the United States is so good at going in and taking over other countries. Installing government officials that we choose. All we need do is pull out from the Middle East altogether. We don't need their damned oil. But then, we simply have to go to the Mexican government and the drug cartels and tell them, they are going to become state number 51. And they'll have to do what we tell them to do otherwise, we'll tell them, will have to kill them like those other guys we killed in the Middle East. Then we can hand everybody Social Security cards and open up the border. Instead of wasting millions of dollars building a big fence and telling children they have to walk 1000 miles home. And the same with Central America. We need to stomp those ridiculous corrupt governments and dictators into the dust and dirt. They've got plenty of oil in Mexico.

Then we go up to the Canadian government. A bunch of crazy Frenchy's that are governing 50 million people that don't even speak their language and who don't even want to be part of the country in which they live. And tell those morons, they're going to do what we tell them to do and become state number 52, otherwise will have to kill them, just like those other guys we did in the Middle East. And take down the borders to Canada. So Americans can freely cross the border and get jobs in Canada. Just like Canadians can in the United States. After all we own Alaska. So why not all of Canada? And they've got plenty of oil in Canada. And in doing so, the United States, becomes the world's largest powerhouse countries.

By removing the Israelis from Israel, we can then tell these people, whose governments are all dictated by religion, to sit down, shut up and behave themselves. Otherwise we have this other cool Gadget, that we haven't tried out yet on people. We tried a similar device on the Japanese. And it worked great. They then became our friends. We used standard ordinance on the Germans, flattened them. And then they became our friends. Because violence works with violet barbaric people, who can't laugh at a joke about Mohammed. And if Vladimir Putin doesn't like it? Will descend all the gays in the world to Russia. Then maybe he'll find a lover? And then we can have some North Korean barbecue? Because that little fat retard needs to be stomped into the ground also.

Diplomacy only works on human beings not on animals. Animals that go ballistic are always put down. Why should it be any different with those fools overseas?

Think I'm crazy? Well... brilliant people usually are. And after all, Canada is part of the north American continent. Mexico is part of the North American continent. Central America is another part of the Americas. And since the retired Nazis in South America are behaving themselves. We don't have to screw with South America. At least not this year.

The only other reason why we are using Middle Eastern oil is to deplete their oil reserves. This prevents these crazy people, who have become incredibly wealthy, from gaining more power in the world. We have plenty of oil in the US, Canada and Mexico. But we have to make sure those inbred, religious extremists in the Middle East, who don't like the Western world and want to throw us back 2000 years, we need to send them into the future. Into eternity, right now. And then they'll have the 72 vestal virgins and they can party with Mohammed. Because the world really doesn't need that nonsense anymore.

If the Muslims think that the United States is at war with Islam? They would be correct. And they're not going to win. No matter how fast they reproduce. They are all insane. And those that aren't? Oh well? Maybe they should move?

Wasn't that easy?
Mx. Remy Ann David