Guess the MC012's could be nice for OH. I use mine for highhat with great results. You could consider two LD's for OH for a "fat" sound and a used D112 for kick or maybe a LD there too. It has to take some serious amount of dB's though.

Have a listen at a small experiment I did with two cheap LD's :wink:

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sorry to sound stupid, but...
what are LDs?

edit: oh, hahah, large diaphragm, ooh sometimes I make myself laugh...ohohohohahaha

ADK SC-1 are also nice for overheads, in my opinion, especially considering how ridiculously cheap they are.

Hey what was wrong with the PG's???

Check out the Sennheiser e602 for kick. You can find them for around $175 if you poke around. It's all I use anymore and has worked for every flavor of kick I put it in front of, jazz to rock.

the PGs are simply crummy. They're weak, have dry tonality, and don't perform half as well (in my opinion) as the SMs. And the price reflects that. Sometimes, it really is, "what's good ain't cheap and what's cheap ain't good..."

A couple used MC012s and a used ATM 25 or used D112 would be right in your price range. I have MC012s and an ATM 25 and use them for drums all the time. I have other stuff that I use, but the MC012s and ATM 25 would be a great start for drums.

You may also want to consider 2 new Studio Projects B1s for overheads. This should also get you there just fine and you'll get two new mics. At $80, the Studio Projects B1s are right in your price range.

I have been using the Studio Projects C4 pair recently and like them very much. An added bonus to these mics is that they come with both cardioid AND omnidirectional capsules. :)

My friend was recording a band was short a couple of mics so he came over and borrowed ones I wasn't using at the time, the oktavas 319. He used them for overheads and got surprinsingly good results. These can be found on e-bay regurlarly for under $100 ea.
He also borrowed my d112's for kick and got a great sound with it, which is no big surprise and it is a great kick mic.

The Samson Co1 is a very cheap ($59) large diaphram condensor mic. They sound great for the price.

If you wanna hear what it sounds like go to http://www.wastoids.com and download some of thier Mp3's. I used the Samson on the drum overheads and vocals. Sounds suprisingly good.

Johnjm22 wrote: The Samson Co1 is a very cheap ($59) large diaphram condensor mic. They sound great for the price.

If you wanna hear what it sounds like go to http://www.wastoids.com and download some of thier Mp3's. I used the Samson on the drum overheads and vocals. Sounds suprisingly good.

Sounds like 57s with a 10-12KHz boost to me.

Alright well I completed all my purchases but one
I got:
AKG D112 for $165.99
Samson CO1 for $61 and another for $69
This is all including shipping, of course.
I plan to get the Oktava for a little over $100.
and I sold my PG mics, finally.

rvdsm wrote:

Sounds like 57s with a 10-12KHz boost to me.

:roll:

I like condensers more for overheads, I don't need to be using SM57s for overheads and then boosting the signal 20db and getting noise with it.

They're cheaper anyway...

I picked up a set of C4's on the recomendation of Maintiger and I love'em. Great mic for the price, matched pair, shock mounts, omni and cardiod capsules and case for $319 at Sweetwater. I've used them as OH's and on accoustic guitar with great results. I know it's more than you wanted to spend but mentioned them in case you want to check them out.

behringer ecm-8000, about 80 bucks for a pair. extremely accurate (they're omni-directional) and high output, may be harsh/brittle compared to earthworks omnis, but really good at capturing the whole kit and are durable enough to use as drum sticks as well...heh

I prefer LD condensers for overheads. Neumann Us work a treat but for a budget buy you could do a lot worse than an AKG Solid Tube. They work great on acoustic guitars, brass, vocals too.

Even cheaper and almost as good are AKG C1000S.

Phil Plumpton
Technical Engineer
Olympic Studios, EMI Studios Group

behringer ecm-8000?

aren't they measurement mics?

I use the C1000's for O/H's, no complaints. Also fine for acoustic guitar, trying them for a horn section tonight.

Like Big D says, the C4's are an amazing value and great overheads. If you want to go with LD's for overheads, try a pair of Oktavas 319.
I have a pair and would have never consider using them for OH as I'll use the C4's instead but a friend of mine borrowed them and got amazing results- goes to show you, you gotta try everything...