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nsureit Wed, 07/13/2016 - 23:19

I was looking for information comparing U87 with U87Ai. Was thrilled to find this forum. I'm a serious hobbyist, soon to retire, so I can spend more time as recording engineer for my band comprised of a bunch of old guys and gals who grew up in the 60s.

I am trying to put together a portable recording studio as our band plays regularly at charitable events. We also have a monthly jam session at a local pub.

Here's my locker, so far. Almost all of it is used gear that I've begged, borrowed or traded for. I can fit it all into three medium SKB cases and one larger rolling container.

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wheresjerry Wed, 12/07/2016 - 13:44

new here at the site, so hello! I am not a studio guy, so don't fault me if I am not as up to speed as many of you. My studio is the outdoors, theater, club or concert venue. Yes, you will here chatter under the mics, but I love live sound. Gear I am running in the field is my new ZOOM F8 which replaced my Marantz PMD 671, a stereo matched pair of Neumann KM184's and a stereo pair of AKG 390 Blueline Series. I am using Ozone 7 and Sony Soundforge for Mac for my editing and mastering needs. I am in no way and expert on either program, but have become so so in using my recordings to sound the best I can.....typically, us tapers post our shows in flac format to different sites for folks to enjoy. Looking forward to learn more here, and if you're like minded, lets chat!

pcrecord Thu, 12/08/2016 - 05:52

nsureit, post: 439892, member: 49916 wrote: I was looking for information comparing U87 with U87Ai. Was thrilled to find this forum. I'm a serious hobbyist, soon to retire, so I can spend more time as recording engineer for my band comprised of a bunch of old guys and gals who grew up in the 60s.

I am trying to put together a portable recording studio as our band plays regularly at charitable events. We also have a monthly jam session at a local pub.

Here's my locker, so far. Almost all of it is used gear that I've begged, borrowed or traded for. I can fit it all into three medium SKB cases and one larger rolling container.

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Nice list !

What are your signal chains for the ISA and trident ?

pcrecord Thu, 12/08/2016 - 05:53

wheresjerry, post: 445562, member: 50213 wrote: new here at the site, so hello! I am not a studio guy, so don't fault me if I am not as up to speed as many of you. My studio is the outdoors, theater, club or concert venue. Yes, you will here chatter under the mics, but I love live sound. Gear I am running in the field is my new ZOOM F8 which replaced my Marantz PMD 671, a stereo matched pair of Neumann KM184's and a stereo pair of AKG 390 Blueline Series. I am using Ozone 7 and Sony Soundforge for Mac for my editing and mastering needs. I am in no way and expert on either program, but have become so so in using my recordings to sound the best I can.....typically, us tapers post our shows in flac format to different sites for folks to enjoy. Looking forward to learn more here, and if you're like minded, lets chat!

Welcome Jerry !
It'll be fun to exchange with you ;)

MAGIX Tue, 07/25/2017 - 08:33

Hello everybody,

thank you very much for allowing us to join this community here!

You may have heard about us: We are MAGIX, a software company from Germany developing e.g. Music Maker, Samplitude, Sequoia, SOUND FORGE, ACID and SpectraLayers. We want to invite you to discuss with us about several music topics, get feedback from you in order to improve our products and also inform you about new upcoming products. We will make sure that every feedback will be fowarded to the product owner :)

Best regards

DonnyThompson Wed, 07/26/2017 - 06:06

audiokid, post: 451516, member: 1 wrote: Yes! What a great addition to our community. As you know, I love Samplitude and Sequoia. I was converted years ago and welcome you here with open arms.

Don't sell yourself short. :)
You've also done your fair share of converting others into using Samplitude as well. ;)
I for one appreciate being "drafted" into using Samp as my main platform. :)

Spektralfarben Wed, 12/20/2017 - 23:12

Hello everyone,

I've discovered this forum via the official Samplitude forum - and so, here I am :)

I'm a home recorder and I'm using both hardware (keys, guitar, bass, a bit drums) and software instruments. Right from the beginning (many, many years ago) I started with Magix Music Studio and used several versions since then.
Of course on basis of the latest offers I took the chance to upgrade to Samplitude Pro X3 a few weeks ago - and I'm very happy with the new possibilities :D

Looking forward to getting information and sharing knowledge and tipps!

Thanks - and happy Christmas to all of you

PS: For whom it may be interesting, here my music:
www.soundcloud.com/spektralfarben
www.spektralfarben-music.com/alf/

DonnyThompson Thu, 12/21/2017 - 02:36

Spektralfarben, post: 454642, member: 51053 wrote: Hello everyone,

I've discovered this forum via the official Samplitude forum - and so, here I am :)

Welcome to RO! :)
We do have some Samplitude users here, and there are some threads devoted to it, but you'll find much more than just that here... :)
Mics and mic technique, Preamps, interfaces, Converters, Room AC and Treatment Methods, Audio Software, Midi, Tracking and Mixing techniques, FX, EQ, Gain Reduction, Mastering, Analog Processing, Music, Engineering and Production Critiques, Electronics, Maintenance, Troubleshooting and Repair...
Feel free to search through the archives...they go WAY back; you can find the date of the last post on a subject underneath the posts.
RO is an accepting and welcoming community, made up of intelligent people; from beginners to veterans. But unlike some other recording forums, we don't shame anyone.
Feel free to jump in anytime, any where... Ask questions, or even answer them if you can!
There are very few hard TOS rules here; its pretty basic, respect and be respected.
If you post something in a wrong area or maybe occasionally drift from subjects, one of the very kind members will benefit judge you in the right direc
Pull up a chair, pour yourself your favorite beverage, and lurk or participate as much or as little as you want.
Welcome to RO !! :)

Telecaster Thu, 12/28/2017 - 18:05

Hi All,

I found my way here from Either Samplitude or Sonar forum, wher a kind soul posted a link to Donny Thompson's brilliant post "If You're not using Samplitude....".
On recommendation from Sunbreak studio and Calamaty Studio, i looked at Samplitude Music Studio 2013, but sort of got away from it.

Now Gibson (owner of Cakewalk) have decided to do no more development of Sonar Platinum, I got an offer I couldn't refuse from Magix and are now the proud owner of Samplitude Pro X3 Suite.

So look out steep learning curve ahead:confused:

Cheers Mike

DonnyThompson Fri, 12/29/2017 - 02:24

Telecaster, post: 454793, member: 51075 wrote: Sunbreak studio and Calamaty Studio

Hi Telecaster :) Welcome to RO! :)
Cass at Sunbreak and Paul at Calamity are both good acquaintances of mine, we've known each other since the old Cakewalk Forum days. I've done work with both of them and it was always a pleasure to be involved with them, as they are true pros, with loads of talent and knowledge.
Cass is a wonderful Mastering Engineer, Paul Russell is a great audio engineer who has become much more involved with video and film these days, but I know both have been using Samp/Sequoia for a long time.
Glad to have you here!
Pour yourself your favorite beverage and jump in! ;)
-d.

Telecaster Fri, 12/29/2017 - 03:27

Hi Donny long time no speak,

Yeah Paul has given me a lot of good advice over the years, in photography as well and I still have all the collaboration music that was created in TOOP, and your brilliant vocal on a Steely Dan cover that was done back then ( at least I think it was your vocal)

Nice to be here.

Cheers Mike

DonnyThompson Fri, 12/29/2017 - 05:03

Telecaster, post: 454798, member: 51075 wrote: Hi Donny long time no speak,

Yeah Paul has given me a lot of good advice over the years, in photography as well and I still have all the collaboration music that was created in TOOP, and your brilliant vocal on a Steely Dan cover that was done back then ( at least I think it was your vocal)

Nice to be here.

Cheers Mike

Oh Lord... I've forgotten all about doing that vocal track...LOL.
I'm glad you've found your way here to RO.
I think you'll find it to be a cool place to hang out, and, a fantastic resource for all things audio and production. We have some pretty serious bad asses here...members who are incredibly knowledgeable and experienced in the craft of audio recording. I urge you to do searches on past posts; there are great threads on mics, mic technique, both analog and digital recording, room acoustics, monitoring, MIDI, controllers, consoles, mic pres, workflows and methods of production...but ...don't be shy about starting your own thread and posting questions of your own, either. ;)
I'm confident you'll like it here...and while RO isn't a site dedicated solely to Samplitude (( we talk about all kinds of different DAW platforms here, and there are some very good ones other than Samp) it has become a decent resource for Samp questions and answers. I think we will probably start to see more former Sonar users migrating here in the days ahead, as Gibson pounds the last nails into the lid of the Sonar coffin and its connected users forums.
;)

Telecaster Fri, 12/29/2017 - 05:53

DonnyThompson, post: 454801, member: 46114 wrote: Oh Lord... I've forgotten all about doing that vocal track...LOL.
I'm glad you've found your way here to RO.
I think you'll find it to be a cool place to hang out, and, a fantastic resource for all things audio and production. We have some pretty serious bad asses here...members who are incredibly knowledgeable and experienced in the craft of audio recording. I urge you to do searches on past posts; there are great threads on mics, mic technique, both analog and digital recording, room acoustics, monitoring, MIDI, controllers, consoles, mic pres, workflows and methods of production...but ...don't be shy about starting your own thread and posting questions of your own, either. ;)
I'm confident you'll like it here...and while RO isn't a site dedicated solely to Samplitude (( we talk about all kinds of different DAW platforms here, and there are some very good ones other than Samp) it has become a decent resource for Samp questions and answers. I think we will probably start to see more former Sonar users migrating here in the days ahead, as Gibson pounds the last nails into the lid of the Sonar coffin and its connected users forums.
;)

I have already found a lot of tips and tricks, Kraznet's videos are super helpful, and I am sure a lot of questions will pop up, and I am not afraid of asking. Hehe, maybe I should post The Steely Dan cover here;)

DonnyThompson Fri, 12/29/2017 - 06:17

Samplitude can seem a bit daunting at first; it's so feature-rich that it's not what I would describe as a simple, basic, "jump in and record" type of platform. (And I'm NOT knocking those kinds of DAWs, Mike...I think they serve a great purpose as "introduction" programs for those who are new or novices with digital production...we all have to start somewhere. ;) )
But honestly, ANY new platform you work with will have its own learning curve, and there will be a period of adjustment - even for those who are experienced with DAW production.
Samplitude is a bit steeper than others - because it can do so much.
Even the first Pro X version took me a fair amount of time to get used to going off of Sonar PE, and with the following versions of 2 & 3, there have been even more features added, so it's gonna take you a little time to get comfortable with it.
I strongly urge you to seek out YouTube instructional vids from a user named "Kraznet" (who's real name is Martin). He has wonderful instructional chapters covering all things Samplitude and Sequoia, and he explains things in such succinct, understandable ways. He gets right to the point, there's no "bloat" or time wasting dialogue.
" You want to do ______? Okay. First do this, now do this. Open this, and select this. You're done."

He saved my bacon more times than I could count, when I was stupid enough to switch DAW programs smack dab in the middle of an album project I was producing. And I still turn to his vids occasionally. When I do eventually take the plunge and move up to Pro X 3, it's comforting to know that between his videos, and Samp users here on RO, that it won't be as difficult for me to become familiar with it.
Because... there's a lot of Samp knowledge floating around the balls of RO, too.
I just wanted you to have another resource that's more "immediate" if you're pressed for time or in the middle of doing something and need answers fast ;)
Don't be scared to ask questions here. RO is NOT GearSlutz; we don't treat people as less than important based on their equipment or experience level. While many of us here do have some very nice gear, and we do talk about the differences between budget and pro level equipment, we're not going to look down upon any one who has basic questions.
RO is all about respect, problem based learning, teaching ...and fun, too.
:)
-donny

BooStudio Fri, 12/29/2017 - 15:00

Hello all:
I found my way to RO via a search regarding summing - specifically “Analog Summing: Valid or Voodoo” ... dudes — sweet thread!!! Chris/ Donny / Boswell / and the many other contributors: Your total dedication to the 2 daw concept and Samplitude completely resonated with me — I’m all in.

I will be testing / hearing for myself of course. As soon as I can get an add’l PC set up I look forward to delving into Samplitude .... I’m really looking forward to mixing into daw2 and eventually migrating completely from PT.

Hi Kraznet videos!

It’ll be baby steps again for a while for me, but truly quality audio is a game of inches is it not? Add ‘em all up and it’s the weakest link that holds you back - there can really be no compromise. So tired of the “smear.” Really hoping these next steps prove as true for me as it seems they have for many of you!
Warmest regards,
Rich Liegey

DonnyThompson Fri, 12/29/2017 - 15:23

Full disclosure- I'm not nearly as experienced in the 2 DAW workflow as Chris and Bos are, and while I'm honored to be included alongside my very talented colleagues, your best bet for 2DAW information is with them.
Although, I'm happy to take credit for being a strong proponent for Samplitude, and if there's anyway I can assist with that, I'm happy to help if I can. ;)
-d.

DonnyThompson Sat, 12/30/2017 - 03:29

BooStudio, post: 454814, member: 51077 wrote: but truly quality audio is a game of inches is it not? Add ‘em all up and it’s the weakest link that holds you bac

It certainly can be a game of inches, of small degrees of improvement... But as you said, (which also happens to be one of my go-to sayings as well), "your chain is only ever as good as your weakest link".

I think that pretty much applies to any process or craft that requires multiple components...
I happen to love fly fishing. I'm at total peace when I'm walking a clear, cold, secluded mountain stream in search of the elusive and wiley brook trout. Lol.
I could have a $2000 Tonkin Bamboo fly rod, a $300 Redington Reel, and a great selection of hand tied flies...but if I'm using a cheap $5 leader line, that tangles, twists, or snaps at the moment the fish strikes, then those other things don't really matter.
You can definitely improve your audio signal by improving certain components...a nice mic and preamp are great things to have...but if you're connecting those things to budget level converters, the mic and pre will only give you so much improvement.
Very few have the luxury of buying a U87, Neve 1073 pre, and Apogee or Antelope Converters all at the same time...so we add the improvements we are able to add as money allows. In the meantime, we improve what we can in stages, and accept the differences we hear, but knowing that the ultimate end goal is to end up with a primo gain chain from start to finish.
I don't believe that you would ever regret investing in a nice pre, or mic...but until every link in your chain is quality-matched from piece to piece, you won't get the "wow" factor until those high caliber pieces are all working together....and, there's also monitoring, room treatment...

I think that every "cooker", those who are passionate about the craft of audio recording, will always want "one more thing". I have two very nice Preamps; an ADK AP1, and a recently acquired Focusrite ISA One. I love them both. I also have a collection of pretty nice mics, too...a few of them are even vintage.
And, I have an Apogee Duet on the way...so I've got two really nice transformer based pres, nice Dynamics and condensers, and a very clean pre (and nice conversion) with the Apogee. But that doesn't mean I don't also want a really nice tube preamp, or another clean preamp like a Millennia or Grace, or more mics to add to my collection. And I'd wager I'm not alone in my never ending desire for more great audio pieces.
But...we also have to determine the difference between "personal want", and business investment "need". Having great gear will never hurt your business...unless you are "equipment poor", which is having great gear to offer clients and to set yourself above other studios...but that only works as well as what your clientele is willing (or able) to pay. Studio rates are currently in the basement. Even pro rooms are hurting and have dropped their prices. So yes, you can invest multi thousands of dollars into great gear...but if you don't have clients who are willing to pay what you need to make to at least break even on your gear investment, then it becomes a personal indulgence, and fulfilling your own desire to have that gear. And there's NOTHING wrong with that, either. It's a great self hobby to have, especially if you are a writer and musician and want to record and release your own stuff...because if you want to do that, then it should sound great.
It all comes down to what you want vs. what you need... And sometimes the line between those two things can get pretty blurry. Ask me how I know. ;)
-donny

ZephyrPark Tue, 01/09/2018 - 19:41

Another ex-Sonar refugee here. I bailed on Cakewalk during the post-8.5 X era (X for execrable?) and tried with mixed success to get comfortable with Studio One. The much-improved Sonar Platinum drew me back, but now the Gibson jackals have bailed on me. I'm primarily a home-studio-based songwriter who uses a DAW workstation as a composing tool. Keys are my main axe, but I also sing. The older and raspier I get, the more people seem to like my voice. No accounting for taste, I guess. Right now I'm looking to commit to a new DAW. Been busy the last few weeks cracking open dusty old versions of Reaper and Samplitude that I own and trying out trial versions of stuff like Digital Performer and Acoustica Mixcraft--all specially-priced to entice former Sonarians to sign up. Reaper seems slicker and far less arcane than I remember, and Mixcraft is very interesting: the antithesis of Samplitude in its intuitive accessibility. Beneath its drab GUI and seemingly spartan menu, it's actually a very intelligent full-featured DAW with some very cool tricks.
How did I get here? I followed a link that somebody sent me about some plug or other and the first post I stumbled on was a long, edifying screed from the estimable Donny Thompson, who I remember fondly from the various Other Place and Other Other Place forums (where I sported the drab spartan handles Grey and Greybeard). We both had tracks on a couple of compilation CD's. There as here, Donny was a most helpful and accommodating expert on all things audio--as well as a superb singer and player. I learned a lot from him--hope to continue to do so here. From Donny and and from the rest of you good folks. Cheers.

Telecaster Tue, 01/09/2018 - 21:09

[QUOTE="ZephyrPark,
How did I get here? I followed a link that somebody sent me about some plug or other and the first post I stumbled on was a long, edifying screed from the estimable Donny Thompson, who I remember fondly from the various Other Place and Other Other Place forums (where I sported the drab spartan handles Grey and Greybeard). We both had tracks on a couple of compilation CD's. There as here, Donny was a most helpful and accommodating expert on all things audio--as well as a superb singer and player. I learned a lot from him--hope to continue to do so here. From Donny and and from the rest of you good folks. Cheers.

Welcome Grey i mean Zephyrpark,
Yeah post by Donny got me back to samplitude as well, and I still have the compilation CD's:)
Nice to have you with us.

Cheers
Mike

DonnyThompson Tue, 01/16/2018 - 16:15

Kirk Pitts, post: 455090, member: 51105 wrote: Hello, new member, Kirk Pitts. Been trying to learn to record and mix for many years as a hobbyist. Finishing up an album and was referenced to this site by a member of the Hamer Fan Club for some potential mix critique.

Welcome to RO!! :)
If you want to post for critique, your best bet is to use the "upload a file" button,located next to the "post" button. This will open up your computer directory and let you choose which file you want to upload. RO's built in media player can handle MP3 resolutions up to 320kbps, with file sizes of around 12 meg, both mono and stereo ...and our player sounds infinitely better than services like Sound Cloud, which is known for having lossy artifacts and skewing of audio quality. Plus, it lets the listener review your audio without having to leave RO to go to another site or service to listen. The upload time is controlled (limited) by your internet provider's UL speed, so it might take a few minutes depending on the speed on your end.
Feel free to upload your mixes (or songs) for critique. Sometimes it takes a few days for people to get around to listening - as there are a lot of pros here who can be busy doing other audio work, but at some point someone will listen and critique.
Again, welcome to RO. :)
-donny

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