The more I listen to this guy the more I'm afraid of him. . . Weird isn't it.. I think I find him too intense... ;)
To me, I have no doubts good recordings could be done with the system but I just think it's another gimmick to make people think anyone can be a recordist. Like anyone can be a signer (the voice)
I despite the fact that in the mind of the medias everything need to be easy and instantaneous. when in fact hard work need to be put into it. The thing that it does is delude the quality by quantity..
Anyway, 3000$ for the whole kit will break a bit of the newbs.
But wait for 3k, couldn't we have a decent mic locker anyway ?
Anyway, time to speak your mind about this new virtual all the way path !
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Kurt Foster, post: 446882, member: 7836 wrote: i'm curious about
Kurt Foster, post: 446882, member: 7836 wrote: i'm curious about the construction. he mentions the capacitors but are they sfm or are they thru the hole? if the whole box is sfm, it's disposable a potential digital doorstop). that's one of the main differences between old school gear and the newer stuff.
I bet we're gonna know more it the next weeks...
i will say that if you are going to model microphones, i think t
i will say that if you are going to model microphones, i think this is the way to go about it. start with an as neutral baseline as possible that is a known quantity and proceed. not saying i'm going for the kool aide but it is the way to go at it imo. here's an image of the rear panel Marco. pcrecord
now that i see the rear panel, not so impressed with the 12 volt power supply. also it occurs to me it's sort of a one trick pony. it would seem that without the modeling software, it's pretty useless. 
I've had my eye on the VMS for a while... I haven't bought it, b
I've had my eye on the VMS for a while... I haven't bought it, but I've been watching it...
I have a friend out West who pulled the trigger on the VMS mic modeler last month, and so far he loves it. He has had a real U47 for years that he's been in love with, it's been a prized possession for him, and has been used on many of his recordings, and he texted me last week and said that the U47 model in the Slate system sounds every bit as good as his real 47, when coupled with the modeled Telefunken or Neve 1073 preamps that comes with the package ( both are also included in the Slate Everything Bundle as well).
I just heard about the 8 channel preamp VRS system this past week. It seems that they are going about it the right way, making their preamp(s) and mics as clean and flat as possible, and then getting the color from the modeled mics and preamps.
The Slate VRS, which includes the LD condenser and 4 of the SD's, the VMS library, and the Everything Bundle, is selling for about 3k (U.S).
The VMS alone, which includes the LD condenser, single channel preamp, 8 modeled classic mics in the library ( U47, two different U67 models, AKG C12, Shure SM7B, Telefunken ELAM 251, and two different Sony 800's), and the Everything Bundle, can be had for just under 1k (U.S.). I've not yet been able to find out how much future/additional modeled mics will cost to add to the library.
I can't say personally of course - about either package - as I haven't tried either one, but I have tried other Slate products and I think that Steven Slate and Fabrice Gabriel are doing some pretty amazing work in the world of digital modeling; and keeping their products affordable at the same time.
There have been the fair share of critics out there, who are knocking the VMS , which under normal circumstances, would mean something to me - until you read into their comments further, and find out that none of these critics have actually tried the system before criticizing it.
-d.
pcrecord, post: 446874, member: 46460 wrote: Anyway, time to spe
pcrecord, post: 446874, member: 46460 wrote: Anyway, time to speak your mind about this new virtual all the way path !
I don't know how we can really do a review justice - either way - without having actually used it first...
I can put forward hearsay, by mentioning that I have a friend out West who pulled the trigger on the VMS mic modeler last month, and so far he loves it. He has had a real U47 for years that he's been in love with, it's been a prized possession for him, and has been used on many of his recordings, and he texted me last week and said that the U47 model in the Slate system sounds every bit as good as his real 47, when coupled with the modeled Telefunken or Neve 1073 preamps that are included with the package ( both are also included in the Slate Everything Bundle as well).
I just heard about the 8 channel preamp VRS system this past week. It seems that they are going about it the right way, making their preamp(s) and mics as clean and flat as possible, and then getting the color from the modeled mics and preamps.
Here are the facts:
The Slate VRS, which includes the LD condenser and 4 of the SD's, the VMS library, and the Everything Bundle, is selling for about 3k (U.S).
The VMS alone, which includes the LD condenser, single channel preamp, 8 modeled classic mics in the library ( U47, two different U67 models, AKG C12, Shure SM7B, Telefunken ELAM 251, and two different Sony 800's), and the Everything Bundle, can be had for just under 1k (U.S.). I've not yet been able to find out how much future/additional modeled mics will cost to add to the library.
I can't say personally of course - about either package - as I haven't tried either one, though I have tried other Slate products and I think that Steven Slate and Fabrice Gabriel are doing some pretty amazing work in the world of digital modeling; and keeping their products affordable at the same time.
There have been the fair share of critics out there, who are knocking the VMS , which under normal circumstances, would mean something to me - until you read into their comments further and find that none of these "critics" have actually tried the system before criticizing it... which to me seems pretty dumb.
DonnyThompson, post: 446923, member: 46114 wrote: I don't know h
DonnyThompson, post: 446923, member: 46114 wrote: I don't know how we can really do a review justice - either way - without having actually used it first...
I was looking for opinions about how the product can change the market, if some were interested more than live tests reviews at this point.
I didn't make my mind about the system yet. I heard they could be stacked with thunderbolt so the 8 preamps limit might not be a problem.
Of course, I already have a lot of gear and it would break my heart to sell it all, but for someone starting up from scratch, it could be worth considering.
3k for the bundle (5mics and 8 preamp) and 100$ for more ML2s and 500$ for the ML1
As for the emulations, the everything bundle is included free for ONLY a year.
After that it is a subscribtion (15$ / month). At least this is not expensive like other software licencing...
One thing that's been bothering me about this. You get one LA2A, stack them up in your mix and this might be bad. Also everyone will get the same sounding LA2A.
Physical gears are alive and end by sounding unique. Of course with all the choices, the possibilities are great and I doubt everybody will sound the same any day soon. but it makes me wonder anyway. On the other hand when you reach for a plug in instead of a hardware, you know it's gonna sound the same today and in 10 years (assuming you still have the same plugin and version)
Ok stop the philosophy talk Marco !! ;)
Steven Slate is intense its true. So was Steve Jobs :). And a lo
Steven Slate is intense its true. So was Steve Jobs :). And a lot of other people I've actually known in sales jobs in my life. It is at a point now where the battle for an all in one seriously powerful almost zero latency interface is doable. My biggest qualm about USB is implementation particularly in PCs where there are myriad of makers. Steve Slate, like RME did with HDSPe card, is eliminating that problem. Funny thing is... who here remembers Aardvark?. Virtual modeling, love it or hate it, it's here to stay. Big names use them happily, in some cases exclusively.
Value for money, at this point SS is killing it!.
IMO of course