Started getting tracks for guitar and vocals done today. M/S on first Taylor and vocals, then on Gibson. Finally main vocal solo mic.

I have a conundrum now. How do you all deal with excessive fret and string noise?. This song is played first using my particular weird finger method, then pick in lead section.

Having great mics and great preamps means I get every little sound now. Some trimming of it would be nice :-/.

Tony

Makzimia, post: 456012, member: 48344 wrote: How do you all deal with excessive fret and string noise?.

Some will use spectral restoration software but you can also use a deesser.

Makzimia, post: 456012, member: 48344 wrote: Having great mics and great preamps means I get every little sound now.

(y)

pcrecord, post: 456016, member: 46460 wrote: Some will use spectral restoration software but you can also use a deesser.

(y)

pcrecord Thanks Marco, yes, I tried a deesser. It’s doing stuff I really don’t like to the guitar. Because it’s one of those technical tools I don’t know enough about .

This is where my musician mainly comes in. I have all the toys and not enough patience or knowledge. Reality is as always when I have to fix it, I’d rather not.

I can hear where the problems are, frequency wise usual suspects of near mid 6k also some lower around 1k too. Slates deesser has a spectral analysis and dual band. It’s also got auto mode, but, maybe I should see if RX6 does better.

Of course if I was a proper finger picker it would probably help, rather than my thumb pick style lol.

Tony

RX is a very powerfull tool..
As for the deeser, you need one that you can pinpoint the frequencies.
Or you could use a multiband compressor.. narrow the frequencies of the squeeks.
Compression deesser will help lower them but not remove them
RX can remove them (to a certain degree) but you need to go manual selecting them..
Althought the last version may have a find similar option.. Can't remember

RX6 has auto remove once you identify, I think Marco. It's one of the reasons I upgraded to full production 2 version of all package from Izotope, it included full (not pro) version of RX also. Once I tried it standalone, and it just overwhelmed me LOL. I think a better approach will be to re-record and possibly tame at record time. I used a EQ, that may have contributed this time, I didn't use a COMP on tracking, maybe I should, light obviously, but.... I am applying the same techniques I used on Adams song, and Floyds, just this time, I am picking with my thumb.. and of course... it's me playing... so I am as always more nervous LOL.

Tony...
I'm not seeing an audio file for Steal Your Fate anywhere here? Is that on another thread somewhere you could point me to?
Or... is it here somewhere and I'm just a moron? ( A distinct possibility, LOL) ;)
-d.

DonnyThompson there is no audio anywhere here. I think last of version one was heard by Chris I think. I am totally re-recording it, hence, take 2 :). There is however another song I just finished that is under the title RATS :D. That's almost complete.

https://recording.org/threads/rats-new-project-under-way.63145/

Tony

If I remember correctly, the Melodyne suite basically rendered your sound wave as a 2 dimensional shape, and because of its polyphony it would or could treat some noises squeaks as independent items that would similarly be rendered as avisual shape graphically that would allow you to click and delete.... I never tried it with string noise but I did use it with other noises and it worked like a charm.

DogsoverLava, post: 456044, member: 48175 wrote: If I remember correctly, the Melodyne suite basically rendered your sound wave as a 2 dimensional shape, and because of its polyphony it would or could treat some noises squeaks as independent items that would similarly be rendered as avisual shape graphically that would allow you to click and delete.... I never tried it with string noise but I did use it with other noises and it worked like a charm.

Thanks :). One thing I don’t have lol. I’ll sort it out. Mitch Gallagher from sweetwater did a video I found on YouTube. In it he does automation volume reduction at each squeak. Not sure I want to go that route, but, it’s a clean effective way.

I think not using EQ and a light comp will do the trick. On tracking that is :). I’ll let you know.

Tony

Makzimia, post: 456045, member: 48344 wrote: Thanks :). One thing I don’t have lol. I’ll sort it out. Mitch Gallagher from sweetwater did a video I found on YouTube. In it he does automation volume reduction at each squeak. Not sure I want to go that route, but, it’s a clean effective way.

I think not using EQ and a light comp will do the trick. On tracking that is :). I’ll let you know.

Tony

I think you can get a fully functional trial of the full suite from them ---

Also - don't overlook how much mindfullness can naturally help you eliminate that kind of thing -- particularly when you are conscious of it.... without overthinking it, just play with the intention of eliminating that kind of noise and you'd be amazed at how unconsciously your body will adapt to that and actually play cleaner...

Makzimia, post: 456045, member: 48344 wrote: In it he does automation volume reduction at each squeak.

Humm not sure about that idea.. If the squeak is a alone, fine... but if you have notes under it, you'll loose them..
That's why I think of spectral or multiband processing