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Hi!
I just graduated from recording school and I'm out recording in a couple of weeks.
I'd just like to post the gear I've rent for the session in case some of you has advices about it.

The session in done in a cabin by the lake during two weeks on a Pro Tools LE/Mac G4 733 with :

- 10 preamps taken out of a Trident B series
- 1 Focusrite red 6
- 2 Brüel & Kjaer 4011 mics
- 1 AKG D112 (of course)
- 2 CAD E-100 mics
- 2 Neumann TLM 170 mics
- 2 Shure SM57
- 1 Neumann U67

The instruments :

- Drums, electric guitar, acoustic & classic guitar, percussions, wurlitzer, rhodes, clavinet, moog, lap steel guitar

The amps :

- Fender bassman and Fender twin reverb

Any comments?
Thanks,

Maxime

Comments

anonymous Wed, 08/07/2002 - 12:51

No disrespect intended, but didn't you "just finish recording school?" Did they teach you about mics and recording electric pianos? I know it kinda sounds like I'm jumping down your throat; I'm not, I am genuinely curious. What did your cirriculum consist of? As far as your mics, it's an impressive list. What kind of band/music?

Ian

anonymous Wed, 08/07/2002 - 13:34

No disrespect intended, but didn't you "just finish recording school?"
YES

Did they teach you about mics
YES

and recording electric pianos?
NO That's why I'm asking for tips. I know I'll probably end up micing the rhodes trought the fender twin, but I'd like to know if there's any particuliar mic for this kind of job.

What did your cirriculum consist of?
I've been recording demo and semi-pro stuff of my own work since 10 years (I'm 25), played a lot of gigs and went a lot of places, including recording school where I learned about (and did) analog and digital recording sessions, theory of sound, sound design and a lot more. I even know how to edit takes by splicing tape.

What kind of band/music?
Look at the instrument list.

Now, do you have any advice? Have you used the mics on my list?

Midlandmorgan Wed, 08/07/2002 - 18:15

I'd be real careful about running a Thodes thru a Twin...the open back design could make the bottom keys really poop out, and you might just blow those speakers clean outta existance!

Many many (many many many...get the picture?) years ago I played bass in a stage band, and used a cabinet designed specifically for the Rhodes: had 2 JBL D140s and a horn...so, for recording a Rhodes, you may be better off using a bass cab or even a full range PA speaker, and place a 57 about 3 feet away to get both horn and woofer...

I've never recorded a real honest to God Rhodes, but I would be hesitant to use a condensor...transients may be a bit much for it...but that is just a guess...

Tungstengruvsten Fri, 08/09/2002 - 19:49

Hey Maxime;

Just finished a project with a rhodes to record, I used a bunch of different setups but my fave was definitely a 441 up close to the grille at speaker edge(i think i had some lows rolled off on the mic) and a MGU70(cardioid) about 3 feet away. Substitue whatever dynamic/LD condensor combo you have that sounds good.....anyway, I had the amp in a good sized room with wood floors and such, and a room mic up in a corner for a bit of ambience(i think it was either a SP C3 or an NTV)

Anyways, we ran the rhodes through a fender twin(love that vibrato and spring reverb) and also through an old Fender Deluxe for some of the punchier tunes. And on one song I think the keeper track we used an old Traynor block 50, it just sounded right at the time...

The 441 went into a digimax with the limiter hitting a little, and the MG went into a Sytek MPX 4 pre and then a drawmer dl241 comp with a little compression.

hope this helps...

oh and just outta curiosity did you go to Recording Arts in Montreal? I went there and taught at the sister school(in Ontario) for awhile...

Cheers,
Eric

RecorderMan Sun, 08/11/2002 - 09:36

Originally posted by Bear's Gone Fission:
. . .

I would think that you might want to mix up your mic pre options a bit. You might really like cinnamon, but you probably wouldn't put it on everything you cook, if you get my meaning.

Bear

Don't forget that for the majority of this industry this whole buisness of different pre's has been a exception for the most part. Look at the Beatles, or James Brown...on average how many differrent brands of pre's did they have/use/have access to? Usually 1.
Don't get me wrong. It's nice to mix and match if you got 'em. My point is that the source is where the overwhelming amount of sonic coloring can/is/should be adjusted...followed by mic's & there placement.

anonymous Mon, 08/12/2002 - 05:13

I have 4 McCurdy preamps from a 70's broadcast board and they sound GREAT!

Definitely look into them. You should get them cheap because they are not well known. I know that they were designed to meet CBC's anal audio spec.'s

There is not a great deal of info about them but try here.

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anonymous Tue, 08/13/2002 - 13:11

Thanks for all your comments.
I was offered the choice between Trident B series and Neve 3115 (1081 preamps) and I took the Trident.

Reason : I prefer a good condition Trident than a never serviced Neve. Plus I've been told that the Trident had tighter bass. Hope I made the right choice...

Now I can't wait to get down to business!