what was your purpose for upgrade

thanks..

Not sure what the question is, but you're welcome.

Sounds more like a driver/CPU/Harddrive issue than a converters issue. Computer specs?

I upgraded for obvious reasons. The 1010LT had rca connectors, didnt sound all that great. No pres, no interface, etc etc.

The features of the 1820m are great. But the software for it , sucks, and the support is worse. I had to call them, and i had to pay the long distance fees, i was put on hold for 35 minutes, to be transferred then, cut off. Total nonsense.

I have tried everything to fix this. Every trick, every optimizing trick, everything.

nothing is working.

specs are as follows.

p4 3.2
800 meg FSB
Jetway mobo, via chipset,
2 gigs kingston 400 ddram
2x 160 gig western digital drives
windows xp sp1
neundo 3.0
emu 1820m

that should give you an idea of what i am dealing with.

the problem, is just in the real fine tunign of things. I get this clips in playback and recording. Its not all that bad, like, i can still record and i can still playback, but, why should i have to deal with these noises? after spending 700.00 on a soundcard?

Like, i said, its the same system, that my delta 1010Lt was on, and i did not have these problems. I also, this is my second, card, i thought the first one was faulty, so i took it back.

What have you done thus far?
What driver version are you using?
If using v1.8, have tried to go back to 1.7?
What is your ASIO latency set at?
Have you updated with Nuendo patches?
Have you tried another ASIO program/application?
Any IRQ conflicts of ANY kind?
Any USB or Firewire connected?

If you have a high performance video card, try the lowest quality settings, or better yet remove it as they are a known source of being CPU hogs. There are so many variables that it may not be possible to get the highest possible performance in your specific system.

Do the artifacts get recorded or is it more in playback?

I feel for you. Mine works very well without problems or hassle for the most part.

wavline1820m wrote: I upgraded for obvious reasons. The 1010LT had rca connectors, didnt sound all that great. No pres, no interface, etc etc.

The features of the 1820m are great. But the software for it , sucks, and the support is worse. I had to call them, and i had to pay the long distance fees, i was put on hold for 35 minutes, to be transferred then, cut off. Total nonsense.

I have tried everything to fix this. Every trick, every optimizing trick, everything.

nothing is working.

What's wrong with RCA Connectors? I don't think it sounds bad at all. In fact, I would definitely tend to lean towards the Deltas over the Emu stuff (creative labs) any time.

Are you entering the device in analog or digital?

If you're coming in via Digital, your problem is a pretty easy one - two masters or two slaves.

J.

Let me refer you to my first E-mu related post:

(Dead Link Removed)

just an update

hey ev1, i dumped this crap emu 1820m and picked up the motu 828mkII, and what a difference. Works great right out of the box, no clips, pops, crackles, nothing. not to mention the obvious features, i should have picked that from teh start.

Chris

Yeah...anything with the name Creative behind it should stay with Video Games and home entertainment stuff. I don't think they're cards truly can handle the amount of buffering needed from a DAW system or application.

Glad you're back and making music again mate!

Cheers

Opus :D

E-MU has the same challanges as comany that is bought by another comany. One is that they are now in the new Creative Professional division not to be confused with Creative Labs products. As someone who has used and even still owns old E-MU stuff, and now has their newer stuff, it is clear that the new products are far more musician and pro audio in level than the Creative/soundblaster stuff.

The new E-MU stuff is as good and is as pro as anything else on the market. I would even say much better than most of the competition. I am more than qualified to know what is a good product and what sounds good and what doesn't. It works just fine in my rig, has been such a great songwritting and idea/arranging tool that it has changed the fundemental way I create and write music. The EmulatorX Studio package is the best value I've gotten for my money in many, many years.

Just about any fool knows, or should know, that it isn't really just about the audio interface and it's drivers as much as it is the dozens of varibles that ALL need to play together perfectly to get the performance and capability of problem free audio.

Check about all the questions that AudioGaff has asked. I feel it must have got to do with latency settings.

I use it and I like it better than delta 1010 that I used for about 2 years. The quality of recording is a lot fuller and richer. You made the right choice by choosing Emu1820m. It's the best soundcard out there in that price range.

I just have to repeat myself. I spent 6 weeks, with the 1820m , by emu, and in my expeirnce , it sucked bad. I had to call them, and pay a 40.00 long distance bill, for them to transfer me, and then to be cut off.

I aslo, have a ton of practice at this daw stuff, and i did every tip and trick on these boards, and others, and others, and others, and i could not get the thing, preforming the way i wanted.

Then, i exchanged it, and got the motu 828mkII, and i still dont even know how to use all of its features, but, one thing i do know, is that, i do not expience, one of the problems, i was having with that piece of junk mastering grade converter. I will never buy another emu product ever again.

If you own one, and it works for you great,! i am not dissing that, just in my expeince, i didnt work for me, and i read all of the posts on that card, and i am not the only one. For, crying out load, there is even a emu board so people can cry about this driver and that driver, and roll back to the first driver, and uninstall this and that, then, reinstall windows, and your entire studio, then, rebuild your whole computer, and if that doesnt work, spend 100 bux, and a phone call to emu support, and hope you dont get cut off.>>>??? what the heck is that?

one very happy motu user...

What you have discovered is the E-MU product did not work for you in your specific system. That can be said for any soundcard or audio interface. Nothing is 100% and never 100% trouble free yet alone being close to troube free anything when it comes to a PC.

The unoffical E-MU website is for all E-MU users to share info with not just those with problems. And like most if not all forums, you find more people that post who have problems as the ones who don't have problems don't have much to say of offer. Just like it is here at R.O.

Just because someone posts a problem and blames something like the driver, that doesn't make it a global fact. From what I read when I go there, it is more often a dumb ass wanker user error than a real product related problem. I see the same people posting and reposting the same and often the same kind of problems that seem specific to their systems. Many of those with problems OVER tweak their system and are constantly trying to re-configure their systems and then blame the E-MU product.

The E-MU stuff is not even close to perfect, but then nothing is that involves a computer. If the majority of users had anything near as many problems as you described, sales would crash and burn and that is clearly not happening from what I hear through the grapevine. The amount of industry awards and reviewes of the E-MU products would not be as highly rated as they are if there was a global wide spread problem.

Hope you enjoy your MOTU, I know many that have had the same kind of bad experience or worse with MOTU products that you did with your E-MU product. I sure am happy with mine.

point well taken audio gaff, and after thinking about it , your right. however, i was just soooooooo frustrated, with that card, and the crap service i was getting from them. And , i was very impressed and suprised, when, my motu, worked right out of the box, and since, then, i have made a ton of music. I didnt write one song, with that emu nonsense.

But, your right, 90% of the problems, are under exprienced users, trying to over tweak, or set up their cards, without much knowledge of how it all works.

Cheers.

Well, it's too bad the E-MU didn't work for you. The most important thing is that you got something that works now and that your now making music. Amen to that...

You didnt mention how the MOTU compares in sound to the 1820M?

i can add to this. i also, had an emu 1820m, and really its a joke, the half rack space, sux, and, crackles and pops galore. i couldnt see a pro or someone on there way to being pro, using this card, but, to each there own. i also, traded mine in for a motu 828MKII, and there is big difference.

as far as the sound quality? i do have to say i like the 1820ms, dsp feature, and the reverb sounded really nice. but, other than that, the sound is pretty much the same, and i think the pres are about the same.

cheers

AudioTracker1 wrote: i can add to this. i also, had an emu 1820m, and really its a joke, the half rack space, sux, and, crackles and pops galore. i couldnt see a pro or someone on there way to being pro, using this card, but, to each there own. i also, traded mine in for a motu 828MKII, and there is big difference.

as far as the sound quality? i do have to say i like the 1820ms, dsp feature, and the reverb sounded really nice. but, other than that, the sound is pretty much the same, and i think the pres are about the same.

cheers

Well, audiogaff is a pro and he uses an EMU (for some things).

Also, a lot of very good gear comes in half-rack space, Hamptone pres, RNP for two examples--and you won't find many pros (or wannabe pros) using the 828MKII either.

If I had the $800 cash for two preamps and converters, I certainly wouldn't waste it on a MOTU 828. To each his own.

well, good for you. I guess, you know best. i have been in many pro studios, and there are always motu products around, but, i have never seen any emu converters around

not to mention there is a whole forum for people to go to that have problems, with there emu products, what does that tell you?

and , why dont you tell us, what you would spend your 800.00 on? just want to make sure, i dont miss out.