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Come on, it's written "miking", no?

I'd only call it Micing when using the Blue Mouse.

:p

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anonymous Wed, 02/25/2004 - 17:04

Hey Kurt, you didn't even check the dictionary, did ya? Why persist when it's actually incorrect? There's no such word as "micing". Would you actually write "I miced the toms"?

Check the dictionary, or do a google search for "micing" and "miking". Feels like I'm nitpicking, but I thought you'd want to spell it right in the title of a forum...

KurtFoster Wed, 02/25/2004 - 17:50

Originally posted by trazan:
Hey Kurt, you didn't even check the dictionary, did ya? Why persist when it's actually incorrect? There's no such word as "micing". Would you actually write "I miced the toms"?

Check the dictionary, or do a google search for "micing" and "miking". Feels like I'm nitpicking, but I thought you'd want to spell it right in the title of a forum...

Yeah, I know what the dictionary says and it's wrong! :D Really, take a look at a 50 year old dictionary and see what kind of mistakes are in it... Languages are always in a constant state of flux, changing all the time. 50 years ago, you wouldn't find many words that are there now ... like "ain't".

Yes, I write all the time, "I am micing the toms", as well as "I miced the toms" and "The mics were placed on the toms". Microphone .... do you see a "K" there??? Where does the "K" come from?? Please tell me ... The dictionary is wrong on this one IMO.

anonymous Wed, 02/25/2004 - 18:31

Originally posted by dudge:
Don't you think maybe Kurt and Gaff have been in the audio business for long enough to know how a mic is referred to? :D
:p Doesn't make him an expert on written language though.

Kurt, do you see a "k" in Michael? Following your logic you can't possibly call him Mike. It's just following the logic in the english language. Words are usually written with a certain logic connection to how they are pronounced.

Snip:

George Petersen (editor of Mix Magazine) went over this for me a long
time ago:

- mic: a single microphone
- mics: multiple microphones
- mike, miking: the active-tense verb/gerund of using a microphone ("I'll
mike the toms while you're miking the background singers.")
- miked: the past tense of the aboved ("He should have miked the kick
with an RE-20.")

Hey, just trying to point out what both the dictionary and most of the english speaking audio community uses. But you may mouse your drums all ya want :cool:

KurtFoster Wed, 02/25/2004 - 18:32

Actually, this is an ongoing debate in the audio biz... many mistakenly refer to it as mike... some who should know better. For various reasons, some because it does look like we are referring to a small rodent, some because they want to leave a mark on the audio world ... rewriting the "technospeak" but for me the "tell" is that the word mic comes from the word micro as in small ... no "K", no "E"... MIC! (dammit!) :D ...

AudioGaff Wed, 02/25/2004 - 19:03

There really is no need to be ANAL (as in an being a nitpick ASS in case I'm not being clear) about it. As long as you can understand what is being said and what was meant, good enough. Besides, I learned it is improper to turn nouns and pro-nouns into verbs to start with yet alone worry about how to spell them...

anonymous Wed, 02/25/2004 - 19:19

Originally posted by AudioGaff:
There really is no need to be ANAL (as in an being a nitpick ASS in case I'm not being clear) about it.

The f**king (or probably fucing :p ) word has been in the dictionary since 1939, but I should have known better than to respond when someone said I was wrong. Carry on.

Barkingdogstudios Sat, 02/28/2004 - 10:55

Yeah, what does it matter? Call it "taking out the garbage" as far as that goes, as long as "taking out the garbage" means something ....
Good god, the audio industry is rife with terms that are used to describe things that can't be taken literally : "fat" (also "phat" but different meaning entirely!), "thin", "transparent", "squashed", "big", "wet", "dry", "round", "full", "punchy", "clean", "dirty", "pocket" .... are the first ones that come to mind.

On the anal side .... in some cases placing a vowel after a consonant, "softens" the consonant and makes the vowel before the consonant ring like the letter indicates ("mice" sounds like "my-ss" not "mih-ss"), therefore "micing" would really be pronounced "my-sing". But calling it "Mick-ing" would just make Irish people angry.

Besides, this is "recording" dot org, not "spelling" dot org. Yo, chill!

anonymous Sat, 02/28/2004 - 13:58

Originally posted by trazan:
Hey Kurt, you didn't even check the dictionary, did ya? Why persist when it's actually incorrect? There's no such word as "micing". Would you actually write "I miced the toms"?

Check the dictionary, or do a google search for "micing" and "miking". Feels like I'm nitpicking, but I thought you'd want to spell it right in the title of a forum...

In the real world of audio devices the "microphone" came after, and is the opposite of the "megaphone".The word "mic" is slang used by audio professionals,hence not in any dictionary other than one written for audio professionals.My websters dictionary defines "Mike" as a microphone,it is wrong.

cruisemates Tue, 03/02/2004 - 07:20

I'm speaking as a publisher and editor of a publication (not about audio) and as a wordie in general. I also brought this up here, but I let it go because the people running the site have the right to define their own terms. If they prefer micing the drum to miking the drums that is up to them.

The term "miking" or "micing" is colloquial, and therefore accepted usage can only be derived through what has been done in practice.

"microphone", "mic", "miking" are all correct terms that I have always seen written. The reason why is because the "c" is always soft in English when "ing" is added, as in dicing, or enticing.

We could also argue about "mouse" in computereze. I usually say "mouses" in the plural because "mice" refers to rodents.

peterpan Thu, 03/04/2004 - 04:28

Just to ad something to what Trazan says (with which I agree, although my native language is not english). Il think that slang always stems from the way names are pronounced, not from their spelling.
Mic is pronounced miK, yes ??
and how do you pronounce micing ???? my-ssing ??? it then loses its meaning...
Besides, I remember an old 45 RPM (God... it was only yesterday... ;) of Pat Boone, the cover showed him facing a microphone and the title was : "Pat on mike"....
Cheers !! :c:

peterpan Thu, 03/04/2004 - 04:31

Just to ad something to what Trazan says (with which I agree, although my native language is not english). Il think that slang always stems from the way names are pronounced, not from their spelling.
Mic is pronounced miK, yes ??
and how do you pronounce micing ???? my-ssing ??? it then loses its meaning...
Besides, I remember an old 45 RPM (God... it was only yesterday... ;) of Pat Boone, the cover showed him facing a microphone and the title was : "Pat on mike"....
Cheers !! :c: