Let's do a mixing exercise !
I've been ask to do one a few months back when we did the mastering exercise..
So here we are. Anyone can participate and to make things a bit funny it's also going to be a challenge between me and recordingstudio9 youtube channel.
Here is the invitation ;
Looking forward to this!
I know many asked for a mix exercise when I did the mastering one.. Hope there's going to be good participation.. ;)
I might try this one ;)
I downloaded the tracks and started getting into it. Then I realized that the bass track was "pre-mixed," with fader moves built in. It looks like the kick is the same way. I didn't really want to start with a mix that was halfway done. Because it was going to be a tedious task to undo all the fader moves so I could start fresh, I bailed out and wiped it from my drive.
Would an auto gain pluggin work if you set a very narrow target gain range? Just wondering if or how this issue could be handled without doing it manually.
I don't have any auto gain plugins other than compressors. If there were fader moves built in there was probably eq and perhaps compression. There was no detectable bleed on the toms, so they're either edited or processed, and they're premixed into one stereo track. I'm just not interested in mixing something that's half mixed already.
This is supposed to be a fun mix exercise. Anybody can do it or pass. that's ok.
As for premixing being done, I honestly don't know. What I know is that many things can be done on the way in. EQ, Comp and even gain riding by hand. . .
I didn't start the mix yet. I'm going to vacation for 2 weeks and will get time in the second week to check it out. If some wrong things as been done to the tracks, it makes it even more of a challenge to mix. Since the idea is to help people learn, I see this like an opportunity instead of a show stopper..
But I get that some here are profesionnals and doing a free mix just for fun might be out of their business scope.. Respect to you and a bit of envy too. ;)
I don't think anything wrong has been done to the tracks. The fader moves and other things just build some of another mix engineer's preferences into it, and it would take a lot of tedious effort to undo that.
I guess my old DAW and PC (Nuendo 3) did not see the automation on the bass. I just imported the files as wav files and started playing. The drum files and bass sound pretty decent to me. There are a lot of guitar files, which might not be needed IMO. The vocal tracks have some artifacts in them, I spent last night trying to clean up the headphone bleed and smooth out the explosives. The tracks are not perfect, but back when I used to do this more often, I never once saw perfect tracks. I used to get files in all conditions....for me it just fun to play again.
Play the bass track. Does it rise and fall in sections? Does it sound like it was played like that or like it was raised and lowered with a fader (or volume envelope)?
Could it be the bass player that plays with dynamics ??
Almost done... @Bouldersound - I did not notice the pre mixing, but I did end up compressing the bass to even it out a bit more, but all and all I liked the levels, so maybe it was pre mixed?
This was a lot of fun so far. I got to try to trigger a reverb off the return of a delay...that was pushing my sends and busses options in Nuendo 3, fun problem to solve. I am sure the new DAWS do this type of thing much better.
It doesn't sound like playing dynamics, though it could be a volume pedal with a preset upper and lower limit. But the timing and the slope of the volume change seemed too precise. Also, the kick had a similar up-down pattern that seemed way too precise to have been played.
I listened again, and you are 100% right, but I still liked what they did.
Can't wait to listen to your results.
how did the mixing exercise turn out?
audiokid wrote: how did the mixing exercise turn out?
it's not done yet, we've gave it until the middle of july for people to submit their mixes..
In the mean time I published a video about the setup of the project and basic levels.
I will publish a minimal mix version this weekend !
Just came back from vacations..
There wasn't many submissions to this mix exercise, but It was fun to do.
Thanks to everyone who participated or followed or commented !!!
Here is a play list of how it went and the final results :