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I just finished replacing the tubes on my 2000e with some J.Js ECC81s--I must sayafter opening up the hood on the Seb,Im very impressed with the craftsman ship (hand built).
I havent seen "real hand soldering" in a long time.
As far as tonal change due to tube replacement is concerned,I honestly cant hear a difference,I decided to change the valves out seeing as how it was built on 03,and i bought it used

Hey SEb--out of curiostyhow long does it take the the crew at the shop to build one of these bad boys?

I had a chance to visit a local studio and ck out all the gear man,am really glad I did,it just gave me more inspiration to continue--with that said,I asked the engineer if hes ever used a Sebatron before,and much to my suprise,he had no idea of what I was talking about-----so-I proceded to have him listen to a CD I recorded of my Washburn acuostic electric (one channel using the di,and the other channel miced via a Joemeek JM-27) pan left and right----nothing else ---Just the SEb-he was impressedhe asked me where he could get a hold of one?go figure :lol: :lol:

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anonymous Sun, 05/29/2005 - 17:33

mikE@THECAVE wrote: you replaced The JJ's that were in there with JJ's ???

Thats correct,I replaced them as a preventive measure,just in case.
I looked into several other 12AT7s,but seeing as how Im not familiar with "preamp" tubes,I decided to go with OEM stuff.
I was gonna go with Mullards,but untill I become more familiar with the SEbs tones-hot-or-cold-Ill stick with whats been tried and proven.

Guest Sun, 05/29/2005 - 17:43

eddies880 wrote: he asked me where he could get a hold of one?---go figure

I have met a couple of guys who were pretty good at audio work and sound production, but when I bring up pre-amps they really don't know all that is out there.
Sure everybody who's anybody has heard of Avalon. But not all guys want to throw all that cash down on good quality pre's. They would rather learn about "pro tools" or whatever.
Not that this has anything to do with the dude you were talking about.
Just a thought

anonymous Mon, 05/30/2005 - 13:34

its that guy again wrote: [quote=eddies880]he asked me where he could get a hold of one?---go figure

I have met a couple of guys who were pretty good at audio work and sound production, but when I bring up pre-amps they really don't know all that is out there.
Sure everybody who's anybody has heard of Avalon. But not all guys want to throw all that cash down on good quality pre's. They would rather learn about "pro tools" or whatever.
Not that this has anything to do with the dude you were talking about.
Just a thoughtAs far as Preamps,the only pres that I saw,were 2 Presonus M-80s,http://www.presonus.com/m80.html
he had those specifically for drums,he also had alot of TC electronic gear.

Guest Mon, 05/30/2005 - 14:46

As far as I know that pre-amp unit is mostly used as a live, or gigging pre-amp. Not that it doesn't sound way better than most mixing board pre-amp's.
And you can certantly use it live or in the studio. But it's the guy's who understand "real" audio signal quality that use only the best in high-end pre-amps.
You know eddies880, It is really amazing to me how some guys, just don't understand how important high-end pre-amps are.
Speaking of which, I can't wait to get my first Sebatron unit.

jonnyc Mon, 05/30/2005 - 15:35

Most pro's I know are acctually pretty concerned with their mic pre's. If they pro's you talk to don't know quality pre's then I would be looking for advice from another pro. I'm no pro and I know what high quality pre's are. Sure you'll find some pros with Avalons but you're more likely to find stuff from Apogee, Manley, Massenburgs, Universal Audio, Summit Audio.

Guest Mon, 05/30/2005 - 16:28

jonnyc wrote: If they pro's you talk to don't know quality pre's then I would be looking for advice from another pro.

1) Who says I was asking for advice?
2) please define pro....does pro mean you make money at it?
The guy's at the club that I was with, have a whole lot more equipment than I have, those are the only "pro's" I know. (the ones with more equipment than me) :lol:
If somebody has over $200,000 dollars in pro-audio equipment. A Midas console, pro tools and their own studio. I am gonna talk to that "pro" anyday of the week.
This guy is making $50 an hour. Is that pro enough?
And the only advice I asked was, When can I come see your studio?
Alot of pro's dont use outboard gear, I do. But that's just the way it is.

anonymous Tue, 05/31/2005 - 08:51

its that guy again wrote: As far as I know that pre-amp unit is mostly used as a live, or gigging pre-amp. Not that it doesn't sound way better than most mixing board pre-amp's.
And you can certantly use it live or in the studio. But it's the guy's who understand "real" audio signal quality that use only the best in high-end pre-amps.
You know eddies880, It is really amazing to me how some guys, just don't understand how important high-end pre-amps are.
Speaking of which, I can't wait to get my first Sebatron unit.

I was kinda suprised to see the M 80s in his studio,but I guess he knows what hes doing,I listened to several bands he recorded,the dude know his job.
As far as the using the Seb,it makes recording "so much" easier.I recorded keyboard tracks yesterday through the unit,it really takes the digital edge off,and makes the keyboard sound like they should.
Im really glad I took the plung and purchased the Seb,I kinda got lucky and (in my opinion)got it at a good price.
You just gotta set youre mind to it,and buy the unit,if you ponder on it too long--it just makes things worse,I know I did,and ended up buying cheap pieces of F$%^%#%$#-------crap!
With the money I threw away on the cheap F$@#$$ crap! I could of purchased some more "real mics"------------------but I guess you have to live and learn.

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