Using windows server 2003 right now. WOrks great and is stable. Cannot get direct x to work out, asio devices are weird. I can use them but but at the same time as wmd drivers and so forth with Samplitude. Fruity loops will not work either, which i make lots of drum click tracks with.
My buds studio is still on XP PRO SP1. Works mostly. have had a ton of problems in the past with it though.
What are you guys using and what issues have you had?
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"Issues" with everything(Daily!), it's how you work 'em out that
"Issues" with everything(Daily!), it's how you work 'em out that counts... Sticking to something, learning how to make it work is best. Constantly looking for the fault-free option is never successful...
TG
OK, fine, 'nuff said... But... Windows Server 2003??? What are you serving? Windows 2000, Windows XP(Pro editions recommended, if for nothing else than their easier tweaking.), Mac whatever(People that "Go Mac" of course have to say how wonderful it is even if it's only because they spent so darn much more for it - I forgive them, I hope you will, too.), OK. Why "Server"? I just wonder???
TG, again...
server because i am not serving anything. I am using the stripp
server because
i am not serving anything. I am using the stripped down system basically. Server 2003 takes about 80 megs of ram to boot and stay up. It is really open with its resources.
The biggest thing is it is a different core, the kernal if you will.
win 95,98 and Me(millenium) were using the old 16 bit still dos based core. windows nt, 2000 and Xp are using the "NT"(actually stands for New technology) core.
Server 2003, and the windows xp 64 bit edition are using the new core which is unnamed at the moment but will probally be referred to as Vista since that is the new operation system microsoft is taking years to develop. It was orignally called "LONGHORN" but they switched to VIsta.
I have read forums where alot of people were using server 2003 and loved it. For graphic design(my full time job) it is awsome. Mac is a pain in the ass for graphic design because i run automation and large format printers...macs dont like some of these machines.
Are you familiar with Linux audio? you can create a very capable
Are you familiar with Linux audio? you can create a very capable DAW all for the price of your hardware. Of course Linux can be obtained at no cost, and most audio software for the platform is also free. Linux is very flexible, running on both Apple and PC hardware.
A great Protools alternative is the Ardour multi-track recorder, and there are countless wave editors such as Audacity, ReZound and my favourite being SND. MIDI is also catered for in the popular Rosegarden sequencer.
If you are prepared to dedicate a few weeks to figuring out Linux basics, and tweaking and correctly installing your audio apps, then you will be rewarded with a very powerful system, that will offer you lots of flexibility and creative potential. I figure though, if you are reading this you are already committed to spending alot of time to get the most out of your studio set-up, so Linux is worth giving a shot and will save you a fortune in the long-run.
Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the feeling that you not even
Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the feeling that you not even going to get it to crash even if you want to!!
(i personally have NEVER heard of an OSX crash... an apps every now and then yes, but even that super rarely, but the system never...)
plus the nicest, most convinient, inteligent, beautifull ( i like to see beautifull stuff, when i sit in front of it every day for 6-15 hours staring at it :-)) and logically structured enviroment...
totally oposite to windows which appears to me as a "bordel" that's slovak for: just a big fat nasty mess!!
plus, plus, plus... there are to many to mention... that's why i don't understand how windows can exist, or better say how people can support it??? it will remain always a big mysterious to me!!!
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axel wrote: Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the feeling that y
axel wrote: Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the feeling that you not even going to get it to crash even if you want to!!
(i personally have NEVER heard of an OSX crash... an apps every now and then yes, but even that super rarely, but the system never...)plus the nicest, most convinient, inteligent, beautifull ( i like to see beautifull stuff, when i sit in front of it every day for 6-15 hours staring at it :-)) and logically structured enviroment...
totally oposite to windows which appears to me as a "bordel" that's slovak for: just a big fat nasty mess!!plus, plus, plus... there are to many to mention... that's why i don't understand how windows can exist, or better say how people can support it??? it will remain always a big mysterious to me!!!
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I crashed OsX about 5 times (not just the program, but the OS. And every time i had to go to the "engine" room, unplug and plug the power cord, because there is no reset button on mac's) during a 10 hour session in a Mac+TDM studio.
I've had about 3-4 crashes on XP since 2001 on my PC. and they were all because of drivers.
Re: server because gremlen wrote: i am not serving anything. I
Re: server because
gremlen wrote: i am not serving anything. I am using the stripped down system basically. Server 2003 takes about 80 megs of ram to boot and stay up. It is really open with its resources.
The biggest thing is it is a different core, the kernal if you will.win 95,98 and Me(millenium) were using the old 16 bit still dos based core. windows nt, 2000 and Xp are using the "NT"(actually stands for New technology) core.
Server 2003, and the windows xp 64 bit edition are using the new core which is unnamed at the moment but will probally be referred to as Vista since that is the new operation system microsoft is taking years to develop. It was orignally called "LONGHORN" but they switched to VIsta.
I have read forums where alot of people were using server 2003 and loved it. For graphic design(my full time job) it is awsome. Mac is a pain in the ass for graphic design because i run automation and large format printers...macs dont like some of these machines.
???
The only thing right here is that Win 9x used some 16 bit code. NT4, w2K and XP all use different cores.
Windows 2000 is Windows NT 5.0
Windows XP is Windows NT 5.1
Windows 2003 is Windows NT 5.2
Windows Vista is "NT 6.0", but there are specculations it will get a new name other than NT.
Windows 2003 does not contain Vista's core.
yes your right about the vista core, my mistake. but the xp 64b
yes your right about the vista core, my mistake.
but the xp 64bit edition is based on the server 2003 core according to cpu magazine. I had read in some audio forum, people discussing the pros of win server 2003, so i tried it out...it was free to do. It is stable but i have problems with a few programs working out.
I will probally end up going back to xp eventually. I was curious if anyone else was using it, and to see what other people use, that is why i started this thread.
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gnarr wrote: [quote=axel]Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the f
gnarr wrote: [quote=axel]Mac OSX, stable as hell, you have the feeling that you not even going to get it to crash even if you want to!!
(i personally have NEVER heard of an OSX crash... an apps every now and then yes, but even that super rarely, but the system never...)plus the nicest, most convinient, inteligent, beautifull ( i like to see beautifull stuff, when i sit in front of it every day for 6-15 hours staring at it :-)) and logically structured enviroment...
totally oposite to windows which appears to me as a "bordel" that's slovak for: just a big fat nasty mess!!plus, plus, plus... there are to many to mention... that's why i don't understand how windows can exist, or better say how people can support it??? it will remain always a big mysterious to me!!!
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I crashed OsX about 5 times (not just the program, but the OS. And every time i had to go to the "engine" room, unplug and plug the power cord, because there is no reset button on mac's) during a 10 hour session in a Mac+TDM studio.
I've had about 3-4 crashes on XP since 2001 on my PC. and they were all because of drivers.
have you tried pressing and holding the power button?? should turn it off......
With zero knowledge of 2003 server, I just wondered..? If, indee
With zero knowledge of 2003 server, I just wondered..? If, indeed, strictly just an update of 2000, I'd rather like to try it myself! Though I admit, when I upgrade from 2000 Pro I'd likely just get XP Pro...
You say you're having DX problems and ASIO problems. Just thought Server might not "worry" so much about such things? Know what I mean? XP is likely getting the most "intense service", as it were, maybe a bit "overlooked" for Server??? I really don't know...
Anyway, far as the problems go, you are using DX9, I assume? DX 10 is said to only work with XP... Of course you know that...Lot's of "tests" around to check DX... DX itself has some, PC Pitstop has some, which while it's no "high-falutin" diagnostics program, might at least point one in a direction? DX installed right is DX installed right... After that it's pretty sure the application trying to work with DX that's -- not... Actually, since I mentioned it, PC Pitstop(While geared towards the average consumer), is pretty handy, I have to recommend it. It's free, so at least you know you might get more than you pay for..?
ASIO? I thought ASIO only did one thing at once, only worked with one device or something? Like it's Neat-o for some things but, "does not play well with others"..? Don't know, don't use it myself... Tried it, seemed OK, but asked about it and was told by the folks at Lynx, that I'd maybe be "better off" just using the other drivers... With no further knowledge, I switched back and have no apparent problems? I do only mono most of the time anyway and have only a LynxOne, which may be rather - hate to say this - "dated" for ASIO? I don't know...
I can say this. If I am having actual problems with "things" that don't make sense of some sort, and no one else seems to share these problems(49 "solutions" found with a quick Google search), mine have generally been hardware related... or maybe bad install, needs an update, or wrong driver --- No. If any of thsoe, someone else would have messed up, too... Hardware.....? Conflicting software!!! Yes!!! A simple thing like Adobe Acrobat Reader 7, has caused me no end of problems! All it seems to have been is that it has TWO autoupdate checkboxes - one for "once a month" or something and one for "everytime the machine reboots"(Apparently???). I'd get 15 or 20 minutes into a fresh boot of my audio drive(Which includes OS and AAR) and, in part maybe because my internet was off, or, AAR's update refused to take "I'm busy recording, come back later", for an answer, the machine, running Wavelab 5, would lock-up solid. After a couple of months I found the second autoupdate, unchecked it and all is well... so far.
This is fun, ain't it..?
TG
Ain't it???
OSX rock solid! 8-)
OSX
rock solid! 8-)