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pcrecord 5 August 2020

I can't remember if I ever posted one of my song here..
I haven't writen many over the years, but I had a week of vacation with not much more to do so here's one.

I'd just like some opinion, is it worth publishing, any mistakes in the mix or master ?

Thanks !

https://recording.o…

Attached files Coming Back.mp3 (6.3 MB) 

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pcrecord Sun, 08/23/2020 - 13:25

kevinwhitect, post: 465296, member: 11453 wrote: Hey bud!

My one comment in the first file was that it was hit a little hard w/ the limiter and was pressed a bit loud up against the sonic wall of glass. It had a lot of limiting sheen to it.

You obviously came to a similar conclusion, because the second mix breathed a LOT more.

Well done, you are done.

:D

Thanks Kevin !

audiokid Sun, 10/11/2020 - 17:23

Nice work, Marco. I can tell you would mix your vocals a bit louder (dominant) if it wasn't you singing. Interesting how we all seem to mix our own voice tracks with less dominance (hoping that makes sense).
Being said ... I would add a touch of 1/4 beat echo and a bit a reverb on your voice and turn it up/ possibly compress a bit more too. Make it more present using filters via side chain maybe. ( just a hunch)
I feel the background guitars are a bit too big when vocals are in. I feel your voice should be sitting in there instead (at least during the vocal parts).
Possible solution for me would HPF guitars so it made more (pocket) room for your vox tracks. Samplitude has a great side chain hfp/comp that might be interesting.

Never the less, well done... Reminds me or I should say, I’d mix it like Green Day .(y)

bouldersound Sun, 10/11/2020 - 18:02

I think the mix is pretty good. Since you're getting good input from others on that, I'll stay out of that part of it.

On the mastering side it seems a bit loud at -8.9dBLUFS. It's probably about normal for a CD these days, but most streaming services are going to drop it down 5dB or so to about -14dBLUFS. Would it make sense to do a streaming master that leaves a little more of the dynamics intact? You could get 4dB and leave yourself the usual 1dB of headroom. Just a thought.

pcrecord Mon, 10/12/2020 - 07:22

audiokid : thanks for the suggestions. I already had a delay but the volume was way to low.. I did automate more levels to choruses for the vocal. Hope it's more at its place now.
bouldersound : This new version is more streaming friendly.. (-12.8Lufs) I'll probably do a video for it and I doubt it'll go on a CD.. so thanks for reminding me.

Thank you so much for your help !

[MEDIA=audio]https://recording.o…

Attached files Coming Back_Stream.mp3 (6.3 MB) 

Davedog Mon, 10/12/2020 - 09:18

It gets better with each pass. I'm still hearing a build up in the low-mids. There seems to be a lot of information going on around there. Have you high-passed the acoustic guitar? It seems to be banging into the tom sounds. An old mixer mentor of mine (RIP) used to call those areas "A roomful of 100s" ...referring to a big bump usually centered @ 100hz. One other question. Did you mix this on a timeline or a grid? I hear little spots where something is hitting early or late instead of sync'd and it makes it feel like it's trying to speed up or slow down. Maybe thats what you want. Other wise it's really nice and full and the treatment of the instruments is well done.

kmetal Mon, 10/12/2020 - 15:25

Davedog, post: 465741, member: 4495 wrote: It seems to be banging into the tom sounds. An old mixer mentor of mine (RIP) used to call those areas "A roomful of 100s" ...referring to a big bump usually centered @ 100hz.

100-180hz range is a challenge for all studios not using flush mounted speakers, due to "floor bounce". It can result in a boost or null in that area. So its possible Marco isn't hearing it in his room.

The only fix im aware of in non-flush mount situations, is to use a sub and tune the crossover up in that area (along with optimized physical placement), to compensate for the floor bounce. This may result in a fairly high crossover point, relative to the typical 80hz area.

This might be something Marco could look into if the trend is across alot of his mixes.

pcrecord Mon, 10/12/2020 - 16:59

Thanks for all the suggestions..
The spectrum doesn't seem to go wild on those frequencies but it could be localised to certain parts of the song maybe :

Honestly, I think I'm going to let it go like that.. if it get's seriously distribute some day, I'd probably pay an ME to do the job anyway...
Here is the song with a bit of video :

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