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anonymous 8 March 2015

I wonder what these are like? Anyone hear them?

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TIME FOR A REALITY CHECK

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Ever since the 1970's the iconic white woofer and signature sound of Yamaha's nearfield reference monitors have become a genuine industry standard for a reason - their accuracy. Unlike studio monitors with added bass or treble frequencies which may sound more flattering at first, HS Series speakers were designed to give you the most honest, precise reference possible, providing an ideal sonic platform to build on throughout the mixing process. By combining acquired knowledge and expertise with state-of-the-art sound technologies, Yamaha's speaker engineering team have examined, then optimized, every aspect that has contributed to making these monitors the most trusted in the business. The second generation HS Series also adds a new 6.5" model to the lineup, bringing its exceptional accuracy to an even greater variety of recording environments.

Comments

pcrecord Mon, 03/09/2015 - 04:55

There is 2 freq curve switches but they don't do much.
That's what they say in the manual :

Position speakers at least 1.5 meters away from

walls or corners.

Ideally, the speakers should be located at least 1.5

meters away from walls or corners. In situations where it

is not possible to position the speakers a sufficient

distance from walls or corners, the ROOM CONTROL

switch can be used compensate for excessive bass. As

you move the speaker closer to walls or corners, a

higher compensation setting may be required to

achieve natural sounding response ([0] → [-2] → [-4]).

DonnyThompson Thu, 03/12/2015 - 00:35

I'm wondering just how far off we really are from monitors that really do automatically - and accurately - correct themselves, even to the point of sensing the difference if a door or window is opened, or if an absorber, trap or diffuser is added - or subtracted - or, even with something as slight as if another person walks into or leaves the control room...

I know this may sound like an unreachable pipe dream to many people - pure fiction to some, but 30 years ago, how many of us would have really been able to imagine being where we are today, either ? Limitless tracks to work with, expensive analog OB processing being accurately emulated in software form, nearly every conceivable synthesizer patch ever made being available in VSTi libraries, orchestral samples that actually rival the real instruments they are meant to emulate, pitch and performance correction, or the ability to edit, manipulate, cut, copy and paste audio sections seamlessly with the nano-second click of a mouse ... all with pristine sonics.

Who woulda thunk any of that back in '84, when midi was considered a "success" when you were able to get a Jupiter 6 to "talk to" a Juno 7... ;)

Not that there weren't some mistakes made along the way from time to time... how many here are old enough to remember FSK Tape Sync? Or, that all in one recording unit that Akai made around '87, that took a tape cartridge that wasn't quite a VHS, and not quite a Beta, either. LOL

pcrecord Thu, 03/12/2015 - 02:54

I'm sure we are not far from it specially if someone figures money could be made by selling those.
My surround sound home theater system is able to correct distance and volumes of each speaker by itself. And this technology have been there for many years !
The sad part is that if they put it up, I won't have 20k to buy them. And the day the price will be down enough.. well.

anonymous Thu, 03/12/2015 - 09:10

DonnyThompson, post: 426163, member: 46114 wrote: I'm wondering just how far off we really are from monitors that really do automatically - and accurately - correct themselves, even to the point of sensing the difference if a door or window is opened, or if an absorber, trap or diffuser is added - or subtracted - or, even with something as slight as if another person walks into or leaves the control room...

I think its important to remove or improve all the main issue in what ever we do before we let automation dictate the rest. We still need to think for the robot, and limit the things that it can't muck up/
For example, close the open bathroom doors or cram a queen size mattress in it lol, , use treatment, adjust your speakers and listening position the very best you can before we reach for the EQ and technology.

On that note, I'll have a pair of the Shadocaster monitors this year. Technology is heading this direction. http://www.phasx.com

Reverend Lucas Thu, 03/12/2015 - 09:42

I think what you're suggesting, Donny could be technically feasible. The trouble is that it can correct frequency response and phase issues at one exact location. Correcting in one location can make things worse than they originally were, even moving a small distance from the sweet spot. I'm imaging mixing desks with optometrist style head rests installed in them to keep engineer ears steady. Someone who comes up with a more elegant solution would probably have a market.

DonnyThompson Fri, 03/13/2015 - 00:10

LOL... I didn't say I knew how they were gonna do it - if that was the case I'd do it myself and then take the entire forum on an all inclusive vacation to Cancun from the first year's profits... LOL...

All I was saying is that I don't think we're all that far off from seeing this kind of technology starting to appear. It's already been tinkered with. It just needs someone who can crack the final code and make it applicable in an accurate way, and, affordble to home studios, which are the rooms that need it the most.

Reverend Lucas Fri, 03/13/2015 - 06:39

DonnyThompson, post: 426193, member: 46114 wrote: LOL... I didn't say I knew how they were gonna do it - if that was the case I'd do it myself and then take the entire forum on an all inclusive vacation to Cancun from the first year's profits... LOL...

All I was saying is that I don't think we're all that far off from seeing this kind of technology starting to appear. It's already been tinkered with. It just needs someone who can crack the final code and make it applicable in an accurate way, and, affordble to home studios, which are the rooms that need it the most.

Cancun! Sweet, I've never been there. I'll bring my uke. Agreed, it needs to be affordable, or at least more affordable than correcting the room. It's an interesting idea.

apstrong Fri, 03/13/2015 - 07:33

Reverend Lucas, post: 426171, member: 48050 wrote: I'm imaging mixing desks with optometrist style head rests installed in them to keep engineer ears steady. Someone who comes up with a more elegant solution would probably have a market.

A helmet-like piece of headgear that leaves the engineer's ears exposed but allows them to mount calibration microphones on each side, providing continual feedback about what's being heard at the listening position and allowing the system to constantly adjust the output of the speakers. Ah, but it would only work while playing a test tone or other known signal, not while mixing. There goes my million dollar kickstarter project.

pcrecord Wed, 03/18/2015 - 08:45

apstrong, post: 426199, member: 36444 wrote: A helmet-like piece of headgear that leaves the engineer's ears exposed but allows them to mount calibration microphones on each side, providing continual feedback about what's being heard at the listening position and allowing the system to constantly adjust the output of the speakers. Ah, but it would only work while playing a test tone or other known signal, not while mixing. There goes my million dollar kickstarter project.

Well, this could be mounted on a security hat and also protect the engineer from the Producer or the artists ;)

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