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audiokid Wed, 05/31/2017 - 10:57

DonnyThompson, post: 450642, member: 46114 wrote: One of my favorite guitar players of all time. ;)

Mine too.

I used to play a few of his songs, one being Sultans Of Swing of course. But I used a pick and although I got most of the notes, it never sounded quite like the claw he does. I really enjoy this video and am going finally to learn how he does that.
What a cool guy.

DonnyThompson Wed, 05/31/2017 - 12:15

audiokid, post: 450667, member: 1 wrote: Mine too.

I used to play a few of his songs, one being Sultans Of Swing of course. But I used a pick and although I got most of the notes, it never sounded quite like the claw he does. I really enjoy this video and am going finally to learn how he does that.
What a cool guy.

His playing was amazing, but so was his tone.
My two favorite tone-meisters were Knopfler and David Gilmore.

audiokid Wed, 05/31/2017 - 12:34

Same. Love their tones. If I recall, Mark used a reverse phase effect and Musicman amp for that famous album. Not sure about David but his tone is just beautiful. Do you know?

For years I have used a Morley Volume and a Yamaha processor with a filter sweep like a wah. Rather than doing the obvious wah wah sound, it locks onto the value I want and I then use the volume pedal for dynamic control. I can get a Gilmore sound like that. Example, Brick on the Wall solo sound.

DonnyThompson Thu, 06/01/2017 - 06:54

audiokid
I think it's cool that you found you were able to get close to Gilmour's tone using your volume and filter pedal(s). Gilmour's tone on The Wall album was ... well, "incredible" seems to be too bland of a word to properly describe it. In particular, That solo he played at the end of ABITW gave me shivers the first time I heard it. I've now heard that song a billion times, yet it still continues to make me shake my head in wonder every time I hear it.
One thing I've noticed about my own preferences for the guitar players I've really liked over the years, I suppose I could call it my own "criteria" - is a player's tone.
Most certainly skill and tasteful playing play a huge part - but for me, tone is incredibly important, too.
I've never been able to even come close to getting Knopfler's or Gilmour's tone, even though I've owned several strats and a lot of different amps over the years. I've tried - but just couldn't ever get the sound that those two were famous for.
Kinda makes me wonder if at least some of their tone is maybe sourced in their hands. ;)
Anyway... Just thinking out loud.

audiokid Thu, 06/01/2017 - 08:16

DonnyThompson, post: 450679, member: 46114 wrote: audiokid
I think it's cool that you found you were able to get close to Gilmour's tone using your volume and filter pedal(s). Gilmour's tone on The Wall album was ... well, "incredible" seems to be too bland of a word to properly describe it. In particular, That solo he played at the end of ABITW gave me shivers the first time I heard it. I've now heard that song a billion times, yet it still continues to make me shake my head in wonder every time I hear it.
One thing I've noticed about my own preferences for the guitar players I've really liked over the years, I suppose I could call it my own "criteria" - is a player's tone.
Most certainly skill and tasteful playing play a huge part - but for me, tone is incredibly important, too.
I've never been able to even come close to getting Knopfler's or Gilmour's tone, even though I've owned several strats and a lot of different amps over the years. I've tried - but just couldn't ever get the sound that those two were famous for.
Kinda makes me wonder if at least some of their tone is maybe sourced in their hands. ;)
Anyway... Just thinking out loud.

well said.

Knopfler's tone is without doubt in his hands. That's the sound of fingers.

audiokid Thu, 06/01/2017 - 08:29

Searching for David Glimors sound, I found these settings for the Wall solo.

Another Brick in the Wall 2
studio
Stratocaster
Gibson Les Paul (solo)
– rhythm (bridge pickup); clean signal into mixing desk (double track)
– rhythm/melody & fill-ins (bridge pickup);Muff and Phase 90 (rate 10%)
– solo (neck pickup); clean signal heavily gated/compressed into the mixing desk, then fed through a Mesa/Boogie amp and back into the mixing desk
Note: It’s reported that David used the 1954 #001 Stratocaster on rhythm parts.

My basic setup has been a modified PRS with double EMG's, neck pickup, direct into the board, then a processor. I'm not saying it sounds identical to the Wall solo but I like it and its definitely my sound. I also have a small Rivera that gets a fat sound I like.

For the most part, I prefer the sound and versatility of EMG direct, then processing. I'm a big fan of processors and delays for guitar solo's.