Yes, I was being silly.

You are correct ADK. A mac is a personal computer that runs OS X.

If I was in the market for a Mac Pro, or one of higher end systems that you are selling, I don't know what I would be plugging into a PCI slot.

I'd like to see some more info on the Xeon windows machine that you are selling ADK. (edit) never mind, I found your webpage (nice page, btw).

OS X has been a wonderful operation system to use compared to XP, in my computing experience (which dates back to 1979). In fact, I've never met anyone that has gave it an honest try and not ended up using it as their preferred OS (except for a couple of hackers that had used an OSx86 hacked version for a day and claimed it was slow and cumbersome and every thing was backwards). You should give one a try Kent LT and stop worrying about the thing you do your work on, and start concentrating on your work (it will leave you more time and money for the family).

Oh I enjoy it and don't worry about it at all it was just a failed attempt at humor. :S

20" Imac 2.4 intel, 2gb ram. Like $1500 with student discount, if you sell the free ipod. I plan for a dual OS install, and use windows just for sonar, plugins, etc.

VonRocK wrote: I run bootcamp on my 1.83 17inch iMac to run XP. I do this to play an old PC game that I love. It works very, very well. You need to reboot to use this. Only one operating system works at a time.

I have also recently installed Parallels, which allows me to run that very same bootcamp install of XP in a window, or full screen, from within OS X. It works fantastic! I have not been able to run the my favorite game, but did read about a work around to get it running. Not a big issue. I installed this program so I can use Photoshop, and Illistrator, both expensive windows programs (currently being replaced with an excellent open source alternative, just need to take some time to learn it). They work really well within a window in OS X. I can even cut and paste between the two operating systems! The 15 day trial of this emulator software is almost over. I will be buying it (around 80 bucks).

Now as far as running OS X on a windows box, yes it can be done. But it's crippled. So, technically, I suppose the typical windows lovers that usually pipe in on this argument will be correct in saying that you can run OSX on a Windows box, but "running" and "functioning properly" are two very different things. look it up.

Photoshop isnt a windows program. It is native for mac. It was ported to windows.

theaero wrote:
Photoshop isnt a windows program. It is native for mac. It was ported to windows.

The versions I own of photoshop and illustrator are for Windows, not mac. But thank you for pointing out that my windows versions of Photoshop isnt a windows version, but a native mac app ported to windows.

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moisiss wrote: [quote=freesignal]
I can upgrade the 2.0 GHz Intel Core Duo processor in my 20" iMac to a faster one, right?

I think yes... in theory. It uses the same exact Intel Core 2 Duo (and thus: Socket) that you get in a Dell, Hp, buy yourself from Newegg... etc.) It seems to me that the only problems would be in cracking the case and if Apple has somehow "artificially limited" a CPU upgrade from happening. Also, you would of course void your warranty... if that matters to you... and the take-apart looks pretty daunting. Check out the article below and the pics...

http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/1/15/2521
http://mactree.sannet.ne.jp/%7ekodawarisan/imac_intel/imac_intel01.html

That's why I'm not sold on the "all-in-one" desktop.... too hard to upgrade (although the newest iMac looks really sweet).

In an attempt to resurrect this post once more, I would first like to apologize to moisiss. I did investigate this further and I am able to upgrade my iMac, in fact I'm doing it this Sunday. I'm upgrading from my Socket M T2500 Intel Core Duo running at 2.0 GHz to a Socket M T7200 Intel Core 2 Duo running at 2.0 GHz. While I'm going through the daunting task of disassembling the iMac I'm also going to upgrade the hard drive from a 250 GB drive to a Western Digital 500 GB drive (WD5000AAKS). The 16MB cache should also be nice. Someone online reported making this exact same processor upgrade with the exact same iMac model, so it should work. My warranty is up so the worst I can do is break it. But hopefully I won't. :) I WILL however, let you all know how it goes. Anyway, later.

My latest laptop was $750 (HP) - exact same config as a lower end Macbook Pro (core2 duo), except it also has two expansion card slots the Macbook Pro doesn't, and an extra USB port; it has Fw400 instead of FW800 on the Macbook. I just spec'd another HP laptop with the exact specs you listed for $899. Which to choose is preference for most people, but the cost difference is a new mic, preamp or other gear.

Also, Windows XP has also beaten OSX in a few DAW performance tests, even under Bootcamp (I think the German Keyboards mag tested this). Not sure if the same would apply to ProTools though, but fwiw.

I'm not a big Windows fan, or fan of any computer brand for that matter, but I'm definitely not fond of paying more and not getting a performance boost to show for it.

Ymmv of course, esp. since it is a ProTools system - go with what will work best for you, and if you go Mac, buy from an Apple reseller (Powermax, ADKPro Audio, etc) - might save a little, or definitely look into the edu discount if it applies.