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Hi

I've recentely come across a dealer that would be able to provide me a supply of Taiyo Yuden CDr at a really good price; I've red several times about that brand being recommended by mastering engineers and such, so if it really is that good I'd get them and start using them; I've been using Sony and TDK up to now, is the difference in quality really noticeable in terms of coasters and error percentage?

Thanx for your opinions

L.G.

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anonymous Wed, 08/18/2004 - 12:03

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Why Not?
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cause your simply reading the error rate of the disc. once it's burned, the errors are on the disc and whether it was burned on that drive or another makes no difference as to whether or not the drive reads the errors correctly or not. unless the drive is broken.

Ammitsboel Wed, 08/18/2004 - 13:37

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ok, burn a disc and measure it with plextools, post it, send it to me, i'll analyze it and post it. should be identical right?
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it won't be identical, but the fact that its burned on the same drive your measuring with has nothin to do with it.

...?

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Why Not?
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cause your simply reading the error rate of the disc. once it's burned, the errors are on the disc and whether it was burned on that drive or another makes no difference as to whether or not the drive reads the errors correctly or not. unless the drive is broken.

...?

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Do you honestly believe that burning errors is only related to media??
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do you honestly think thats what i wrote?

Yes i did!

But what you are really saying is that different drives read disc's differently.... but it's not related in any way to the burner that burnt it.
This is nonsense!?!...

anonymous Wed, 08/18/2004 - 13:54

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But what you are really saying is that different drives read disc's differently.... but it's not related in any way to the burner that burnt it.
This is nonsense!?!...
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read it again

the error rate is tied only to the burner, not the reader.

you should research it a little

Ammitsboel Wed, 08/18/2004 - 14:54

You wrote:

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ok, burn a disc and measure it with plextools, post it, send it to me, i'll analyze it and post it. should be identical right?
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it won't be identical, but the fact that its burned on the same drive your measuring with has nothin to do with it.

and:

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But what you are really saying is that different drives read disc's differently.... but it's not related in any way to the burner that burnt it.
This is nonsense!?!...
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read it again

the error rate is tied only to the burner, not the reader.

you should research it a little

First you say that a burned CDR will read differently on different drives: "it won't be identical, but the fact..."
And then you say: " the error rate is tied only to the burner, not the reader. "

...you are not making sense.
You should research comunication or maybe just get your meanings streat.

Best Regards,

anonymous Wed, 08/18/2004 - 15:13

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First you say that a burned CDR will read differently on different drives: "it won't be identical, but the fact..."
And then you say: " the error rate is tied only to the burner, not the reader. "
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because it's an averaging process. the same disc read several times in the same reader will yield different results whether you use plextor clover or stagetech testers. that doesnt change the error rate of the disc, which happens at the burn process.

Michael Fossenkemper Wed, 08/18/2004 - 19:11

I believe it also happens during the read process. Different burners or players calibrate their lasers for certain window of reflectivity. If the errors of a disc are generated at the burn stage, then when analyzed several times in the same drive, would yield identical results. But they don't, so that leads one to believe that they are generated also while reading.

Ammitsboel Thu, 08/19/2004 - 01:24

When you say that the same reader can read different results on the same CDR, is it then big differences or small differences... do they matter at all?

I'm having some disc's tested soon at a CD plant on a $50k CDR tester.... I gues will not tell him to test the same disc twice!?

I have to talk to him about this!!

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