pcrecord, post: 450824, member: 46460 wrote: Not sure what it will do on a full mix..
All in all, if you make the gate and generator working, you won't need anything else and it will be the exact frequency you set it to... ;)

Rock and roll man!!

youdoofus, post: 450811, member: 50627 wrote: Thanks for showing that people arent welcome in your playground

I'm More than happy to have new members in "the sandbox". I just don't want someone who is new - and ultra sensitive and bitchy PISSING in it.
If you do a search of the member's posts here (the members you referred to as "the wolf pack") on RO (many going back years, although I doubt that you would actually do that, but if you did you would see that I've taken other long time members to task here occasionally as well - including Kurt ) you'll find that we can be incredibly welcoming and helpful to polite people seeking advice.
Perhaps you need to re-read your own posts, where you came out swinging - to determine why yours was treated differently than the hundreds of others over the years who were happy with our responses.
But you won't do that, will you?
Jump to your own conclusions. No one can stop you from doing that, just as no one can force you to turn your analytical finger-pointing towards yourself.

DonnyThompson, post: 450827, member: 46114 wrote: I'm More than happy to have new members in "the sandbox". I just don't want someone who is new......

okay guy... ive been trying to let bygones be bygones for several posts here, can you just get back to the ACTUAL topic? the fodder provided so far by another member has been super helpful. Do you have anything to add along those lines? as ive said over and over, all i want is sound editing advice for a specific purpose that sounds like something that could be fun, dont ruin a potential good time please. I promise you, ill never drive down your street with my stereo on or otherwise (definitely not on 20" rims)

and i have taken some time to look at your previous posts, and they do seem to offer an experienced amount of insight. So like i said, bygones?

what you are wanting to do won't work. reading your posts it seems as if you are under the impression that every note in a song contains deep bass information in the same regions. that's not the way it works. there's fundamental tones and harmonics /overtones all which depend on what chords are played and where the melody and arraignment go.

it would be helpful (to me so i can explain where your thinking is going wrong) if i knew what you are listening to. if its mono tone one chord hip hop with an 808 bass drum then what pcrecord is suggesting (triggering a 40Hz tone through a gate) is exactly what you are looking to do. other than that, you can't get "there" from here. what you are asking to do (hi passing the audio and separating the low end to enhance it and then blending it back in) isn't really any different that just turning up the bass control with an added chance you'll be fu**ing the phase up doing more damage than good.

also, ive never claimed any kind of

Kurt Foster, post: 450835, member: 7836 wrote: what you are wanting to do won't work. reading your posts it seems as if you are under the impression that every note in a song contains deep bass information in the same regions. that's not the way it works. there's fundamental tones and harmonics /overtones all which depend on what chords are played and where the melody and arraignment go.

it would be helpful (to me so i can explain where your thinking is going wrong) if i knew what you are listening to. if its mono tone one chord hip hop with an 808 bass drum then what pcrecord is suggesting (triggering a 40Hz tone through a gate) is exactly what you are looking to do. other than that, you can't get "there" from here. what you are asking to do (hi passing the audio and separating the low end to enhance it and then blending it back in) isn't really any different that just turning up the bass control with an added chance you'll be fu**ing the phase up doing more damage than good.

I hear ya, and no, not under the impression that all music has a deeper bass region for every note. What I'm thinking of doing is more along the lines of singling out the (not sure if this is the best freq to cut off at, but its a start) 100 hz and below, then drop that an octave and lay it over a duplicated track. At the moment I'm thinking of playing around with some NIN, as its the best unmixed multi tracks of professionally recorded music I can find with an electronic, old school industrial feel that I can get a hold of. And that way I can just get the lower stuff from the get go, and have something that doesn't have everything else mixed in making it easier to test the result. From what pcrecord has suggested, an octave dropper can make things muddy (can't recall the word he used, but I believe that's what he was driving at) and otherwise just not clear.

I fully recognize that there is a potential for the outcome to get nasty, which is why I came to the experts here to avoid pitfalls and so forth.

I like the idea of triggering a beat generator and getting some 808 samples put in there. And to my purpose, I'd need to try some out in my car. To see how they sound outside of the song, so a good amount of trials and so forth. Getting the gains in the track before bounced to a single stereo track has to be below clipping across the board is crucial too, I'm sure.

For an exact example, "down in it" has some bass notes that are 808ish in nature and they're cool sounding and all, but if I could cut them out at their current freq and drop em to about 35 to 40 hz, that would be fun and satisfying

Kurt Foster, post: 450835, member: 7836 wrote: what you are wanting to do won't work. reading your posts it seems as if you are under the impression that every note in a song contains deep bass information in the same regions. that's not the way it works. there's fundamental tones and harmonics /overtones all which depend on what chords are played and where the melody and arraignment go.

it would be helpful (to me so i can explain where your thinking is going wrong) if i knew what you are listening to. if its mono tone one chord hip hop with an 808 bass drum then what pcrecord is suggesting (triggering a 40Hz tone through a gate) is exactly what you are looking to do. other than that, you can't get "there" from here. what you are asking to do (hi passing the audio and separating the low end to enhance it and then blending it back in) isn't really any different that just turning up the bass control with an added chance you'll be fu**ing the phase up doing more damage than good.

also, a sincere thanks for looking past the other crap in this post, i never intended for it to get where it got. All input about getting this going is appreciated!

an 808's fundamental freq is already at 40 to 50 Hz.

perhaps this link will help.

i wasnt sure if it was an 808 or not, it seems not from that description and this analysis of the first 1.5 seconds of "down in it"s frequency range
http://imgur.com/a/WUgql

I've been messing with the gate and tone generator for an hour or so and getting a bit of a grip on potentially making it work for this track and then others. Many thanks for the input so far and any additional suggestions that might pop up!!