Typically Intel chipsets aren't the cause for the audio problems..it's the overall operating system and how it's working with the motherboard architecture. Have you done any XP tweaks? If not you should look into optimizing your system for audio useage.

There are several places to go for tweaks...do a search on here for it and you'll come up with several.

Indeed you are correct about ASIO drivers and multiple sound cards within an application..unless it's the same manufacturer you can't. Also remember that USB based audio devices are pretty CPU intensive and can and will cause problems if there are conflicts.

Have you disabled HT in the BIOS yet? Also disable the onboard sound card within the BIOS as well as any other peripherals you are not using(Parrallel, serial, LAN, Modem, and sound) to give you more system resources for the operating system and IRQ's.

Typically SP2 does have some issues with drivers and or plug ins..see if you have a friend that has XP bare and only add SP1. One thing I do like to do is get the plain OS and not the CD's with the SP's built in. This way you can start from beginning and go from there.

What video card are you using and is it PCI Express that you have on your system. You'll find that most people are staying away from PCI express for audio systems at the present moment since it seems to cause more problems than anything.

Let us know if you have tried any tweaking.

Opus

USB fixed, but Gina still weeps

Hi! Thanks! The ESI folks suggested there was a problem with the USB ports on the Intel 915 motherboard, so to use an addon PCI card instead. I did, and the thing worked right away.
However, my Gina absolutely freezes up. I've taken it out, but the drivers won't uninstall now, because I had to do a convert.exe on my hard drive from FAT32 to NTFS. I've tried disabling hyperthreading.

I'm not using any PCI Express cards, but it's good to know that.
Such chaos reigns in the world of computers!

HI,

1) onbord video this is a major no no for Audio
2) onboard video for video editing? this is almost worse than it is for audio. and if your trying to use any 3D effect from Pinnacle no way jose.
Pinnacle renders using both CPU and GPU you onboard video woundnt render squat.
never mind you will not be able to do HDV.

with Intel at this time the only way to have a "Pro" Audio and Video box, single CPU is with Dual Core.

Scott
ADK

ADK audio wrote: HI,

1) onbord video this is a major no no for Audio
2) onboard video for video editing? this is almost worse than it is for audio. and if your trying to use any 3D effect from Pinnacle no way jose.
Pinnacle renders using both CPU and GPU you onboard video woundnt render squat.
never mind you will not be able to do HDV.

with Intel at this time the only way to have a "Pro" Audio and Video box, single CPU is with Dual Core.

Scott
ADK

Scott, can you expand on this? I just took OUT my PCI based video card, as I am needing PCI room...haven't noticed any playback or stability issues at all...how would relying on the video elements of the motherboard effect audio production?

Thanks.

please clarify, thanks!

hi ADK!
Thanks for your response. I guess I'm a little new to video editing (been in audio for years), so am not quite aware of all the problems by the 2 co-existing within the same system. By dual core do you mean something like the Xeon, or the Extreme chip? Just asking. But my rendering in Pinnacle goes pretty fast, even in After Effects / Premiere quite decent. Only 3D animation takes a bit of time, but nothing that can't be worked around too much.
What I would like is some advice on how to make the Gina work - any takers?

BTW, Opus, would like some tips and tweaks (pun intended) on XP. Thanks.

HI,

the problems you experiancing is most likely due to the onboard video. you need a new system or new motherboard.

onboard video takes both memory resources (shared memory) and poles the PCI bus far too much as well as taking bandwidth.

this is why you have issues most likely with the Gina.

Scott
ADK

hmm... i am really sorry guys, no offend!! and it might be a little off-topic, but ever seen threads like that about a mac?? at RO --- cards, compability, IT, fideling about, fixing the comp hardware???

just a bit salt into the wound... :D

ask that to the mac guys trying to use UADs or even find a video card replacement that they pay $100+ more than pc guys...

or better yet ask Steve Jobs why he had to go to Intel Porcessors
or use AMD architecture in the G5s

typical Apple bonehead.....

Scott
ADK

he he, got you there, nice and angry, i just see what i see, and that is far less problem threads regarding mac problems than pc problems at RO (probably because RO is about or should be about recording not IT), i don't say macs are without issues, just less...

but hey, i jumped into that thread (apologies, here) and don't wan't to spam it with something that will probably never change...

getting a MAC user into PCs

axel

p.s. hughh... and also very sorry me that is for stretching humor someone elses...

Sorry guys, this was supposed to be about the audio cards, not Mac vs PC....
but thanks again. So that's some news - HA! Well, okay, so if I get a new motherboard, which one do I go for? there's the Intel 865, the 945,...
Do I ask for a motherboard without onboard video, and then have a separate graphics card? I'd really appreciate any further advice you might have. Would it help to get a separate graphics card onto the existing system, while disabling the onboard one? Would that work? Thanks so much! It's important I know about this, because I'm planning to get a new 24-bit multi-in soundcard soon, and would like to do a bit of research on that as well, but my system has to be compatible too.

if you have a PCIe video slot you can add a video card such as the ATI x300.

if you dont have an available PCIe slot to upgrade with then a new mobo is needed.

if you need to go that route then you would be wise to get Asus or GIgabyte with the 955 chipset.
that way you can upgrade to dual core later

Scott
ADK

thanks ... by PCIe, you mean PCI Express, right? But I thought that PCI Express is causing a lot of problems for audio (See post by Opus in this thread)....
BTW, I got an email from Echo Audio Support for the Gina, and they said they are using a 915 board with the Gina without problem. What do you think?

The PCI card Scott is recommending uses far less of the bus bandwidth than higher end models hence better audio performance. That's the problem with PCI-E, it seems to hog bus resources so by using a GPU which places less demand on the resources your audio performance should improve.

BTW, it was Scott who reported this issue to us months ago and these are workarounds he has found to help.

thanks again! all this is very helpful! So, if I get an ATI x300, disable onboard video from the BIOS, things will work better for me? Does this mean I still need to change my motherboard? Sorry for the dumb question...

HEy Big D~ :D

Curry,

ok here is the deal you have a 915 chipset motherboard.
even with onboard video you are still using the PCIe bus.
so onboard video is bad on top of being PCIe.
best solution is to buy the X300. hopefully that will solve you issue.

in the future do not buy anything with onboard video, its generally a sign of " not the best" motherboard.

Scott
ADK

Thanks so much! Is the ATI X300 a PCI or PCIe card? If I get this, I assume I would disable the onboard video, right? So is it okay to go with the915, or should I switch that as well? Thanks so much, Scott!