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Opus2000 23 July 2002

Ouch...pretty expensive setup here but want to know what you guys think of this setup...

Asus A7M266-D w/ (2)MP 2000+ processors running at 1.67Ghz
1GB DDR PC2100 RAM
431Watt PSU(Enermax)
4RU Rackmount case
PLEXTOR 24x CDR/W
Matrox G550 Dual Monitor AGP
Adaptec 2930U 160 Single Channel SCSI Controller Card
Maxtor 20GB OS and Application drive
Store Case SCSI Removable Bay System W/ 36GB Seagate SCSI Drive
Store Case IDE Removable Bay System W/120GB WD IDE Drive
Floppy
Windows XP Pro

Full system built by me and so forth...3,300 smackaroos. .
Opus

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Opus2000 Tue, 07/23/2002 - 13:32

Well, for who this is for..yes, much horsepower needed!!

As far as that Ebay system...well, give it a few and that price will go up...otherwise if you could get it for that little...700 bucks would be an amazing steal!!!!
Opus :D

P.S...Don't know about the date with that chick!! lmao!

SonOfSmawg Tue, 07/23/2002 - 17:07

Welll ... a few points of interest ...
With those processors, you'll need to make sure that you get mobo rev 1.04. Check the AMD chart to see why.
That mobo requires a MINIMUM of 400 watts. If this is going to be a major DAW, you might want to step up to the Enermax EG651P-VE. Also, with this massive beast having only 2 unregistered DDR slots available, you might want to consider 2Gb (?).
As Tommy pointed-out, you could fry eggs on these two fucking Athlons, so forget about the included heatsinks and fans. As we both know, the better the HS/fan, the more you'll be able to o/c it, and/or the more stable it will be.
Lastly, the CD/RW ... check this out...
[[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.newegg.c…"]Plextor[/]="http://www.newegg.c…"]Plextor[/]

Tommy P. Tue, 07/23/2002 - 22:42

LOL, Gary, a helicopter seaport will be quieter than SCSI drives and two Athlons.
Seems like you're looking for a powerhouse DAW rig, but when P4 3Ghz+ comes around, that rig will be lame. RAIDing those new WD 8meg buffer drives would probably work as well as any SCSI config, and CPU overhead could be reduced by using hardware IDE RAID.

IMHO

Tommy P.

themidiroom Wed, 07/24/2002 - 05:50

I'm not even going to comment. Okay, I'm lying. I've been the poster child for the Dual Athlon system since I built it. Runs great, fast, stable, yada yada yada.

The hardware:
Tyan S2460 system board
1GB PC2100 Registered ECC DDR RAM
40GB Western Digital drive(4gig for system and the rest for storage)
9GB Fugitsu Ultra160 10k SCSI drive for audio
ATI Radeon VE dual video card
Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller
4U Rack case
Adaptec firewire card
3com ethernet card.
Windows 2000 pro
I'm using the Coolmaster heatsink and fans. They're OK
This baby is very loud! I keep it in a different location from the control room and use some 15ft Belkin extention cables.
I'm in the process of designing a sound proof rack complete with it's own ventilation and filtration system.

Opus2000 Wed, 07/24/2002 - 08:51

Believe me..I know about the noise..I need to stress it more to the client but some times they are stubborn like that...
I'd like to stay with Asus as I trust their boards and know you can use more options for power supplies and memory types...plus the BIOS is always pretty good on those...
3.0Ghz....I heard about that and thought....whew..that thought went by fast! LMAO!
Opus

SonOfSmawg Wed, 07/24/2002 - 12:20

Originally posted by Opus:
"As far as memory goes, I think 1GB will do for now...if they need more than I'll get them some more..easy as that."
Maybe so, maybe no. That mobo holds 4 registered DIMMS or 2 unregistered DIMMS. I assume you're going with unregistered. If so, and you use two 512Mb sticks, you won't have room for expansion unless you chuck one or both of them! So, if you intend to put 1Gb in there, it would be wise to use a single 1Mb stick to leave room for expansion. With this system, it's highly possible that he may choose to beef it up.
Again, I want to stress the fact that you need to be POSITIVE that you get rev. 1.04 of that mobo. If you check the AMD chart, you'll see that this revision allowed for the larger processors, which you will be using. Since I assume that you'll be going down to Mwave to buy it, you'll be able to chech the revision number before you buy it.
One time when we were talking on the phone, I told you about these oddly-shaped heatsinks, but you didn't know what I was talking about. Well, here's the link...
[[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.zalman.c…"]Zalman[/]="http://www.zalman.c…"]Zalman[/]
People use these WITHOUT the fans (if they have decent case fans) with very good results for non-overclocked systems. Check with the manufacturer to see if they will work with that mobo. If so, this could be an excellent, completely noiseless solution for you! Read-up on these things!

Opus2000 Wed, 07/24/2002 - 12:39

Originally posted by SonOfSmawg:
it would be wise to use a single 1Mb stick to leave room for expansion. Read-up on these things!

Ummm...1MB!!! Dude....I think he'll want to expand from there indeed...ha ha ha ha!! Just kidding of course

Me...read up on things? Are you crazy mon! lmao!!
you silly SOS!!
Opus :D

anonymous Fri, 07/26/2002 - 10:57

original recipe... yeah, I'm not sure how I got in here but this is great. Great folks and great information. I knew something was up when I saw your banner ad up there. Very cool!
Probably wouldn't have stumbled in here but the Nuendo site seems to be a little dead lately... Hope they get it up and runnin'. Well, back to the free education...

anonymous Fri, 07/26/2002 - 11:02

That's very cool about PRS. When I worked at Strait Music in Austin he had sent a bass to a guy named Yogi here in town (great player). It actually was the first prototype. It was pretty cool but they have deffinately improved them since then. Anyway I shipped it back to Paul the man as opposed to Paul the company. I thought about hiding out in the box and sneaking out of his house with a dragon...

SonOfSmawg Sun, 07/28/2002 - 11:36

So, Opus, what do u think about those Zalman heatsinks? Will they work/fit on a MP mobo? Would they be adequate, without the fan, for non-overclocked Athlons which are in a well-ventilated case?
Zalman also makes a P4 model (CNPS6500A-Cu). Given the lack of extreme heat in the new P4s, these might be a way of eliminating the CPU fan in the ANUS systems (?).

anonymous Tue, 08/06/2002 - 04:06

Just a tech note from a new member about the Zalman heatsinks. The combined weight of two ZM6558BC-Cu units would be 924g (nearly 2.1lb) if the system is a fixed installation with a well supported motherboard that should not present a problem but if it is in a transportable rack or system case and subject to shock loads the motherboard could flex under G loads and cause a failure. Also a vertiacally mounted board might suffer to a greater degree due to to strain placed upon the upper mounts.

Zalman put a disclaimer out relating to the use of the larger all copper heatsinks:-

"(the)CNPS5100-Cu exceeds AMDs heatsink mass specification of 300g, so special care should be taken when moving the computer. Zalman Tech. Co., Ltd. is not responsible for any damage to systems or CPUs caused by moving the computer after installing the CNPS5100-Cu."

I believe the thermal performance of the lighter combined aluminium and copper variant makes it a suitable compromise for transportable systems.

I may well be using the large CNPS6500B-Cu Intel copper unit in a fixed horizontal rack case so I do like these heatsinks but thought I would give a heads up.

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