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Few months ago I bought MOTU 828 MKII. I'm very satisfied with it but
recently I heard that MOTU 828 MKII is much worst than RME Fireface. I know RME has more inputs and outputs but tell me does it really sound worst? What are the differences between them?

Thanks for help

Perlazza from Poland

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Randyman... Tue, 07/26/2005 - 18:11

I doubt you would hear any significant difference if that was the ONLY thing you changed. If you are not currently happy with your sound, track down the root of the issue. A good player on a good instrument with a good mic should sound passable even on the worst AD conversion IMO (maybe not the WORST converter, but you get the point).

I still have light years to go on achieving my desired sound. Equipment sure does help, but your own engineering talents and abilities are ALWAYS king.

I'm a big RME fan FWIW. Great stuff, fantastic XP drivers, and a killer DSP latency-free mixing application ("Total Mix") round out the Fireface and the Multiface/Digiface units.


anonymous Thu, 07/28/2005 - 21:07

perlazza wrote: [quote=LittleDogAudio]Everything Randy says is dead-on.

But to answer your question: yes, RME sounds better than Motu.


Can you describe the difference?


RME's clock is better with very low jitter which translates into better sound clarity, stereo image, etc.

Often some converters sound is descrived as dark and gray and that is due to poor clocking and filter design.

Apogee, RME and Lynx have very good clocks and filter designs.

Guy Cefalu
Sonica Audio Labs

anonymous Fri, 07/29/2005 - 08:47

perlazza, things are also easier (less stressful) to listen to when using better converters/clocks. It's not so much a color issue with the sound, although I have read people who have wrote that going from MOTU to RME sound like a dirty film has been removed from the sound. That's an exageration, depending on how much you truelly can hear - your monitoring chain, your room, your ears contribute to this. If you are just playing around in your bedroom with some cheap desktop speakers, you will more then likely never hear any difference no matter how good your ears may be, for example. Also, even in the best monitoring/room situation, you're ears may not be trained enough to hear the difference.

Converters/Audio interfaces are probably the last place you want to spend your big bucks, IMO, because for one thing that area is 'improving' pretty rapidly. In other words, in a few years something as good as the RME FireFace may cost ALOT less, like the price of your current MOTU. I can't say for sure, but that's how I look at it. If you are happy with your MOTU's there isn't a whole lot of reason to improve, especially for the sake of what other's here have said. It's only when you have heard the difference for yourself and truely can't live with your MOTU any longer that you should be considering the switch. Again, that's just my view on it, buy what you please...


anonymous Mon, 08/01/2005 - 01:34

jamiey thanks for wise answer

I was a little confused when I found out that Black Eyed Peas use Motu. I like their sound so if they make it on Motu I'm no longer anxious...

Do you think the biggest stars record digitaly (using computers) or using only recorders like Studer? I mean recording, not editing and mixing.

anonymous Mon, 08/01/2005 - 14:12

I think it all depends on the artist, the producer, the studio, and what kind of sound they are going for. I know that a lot of people record into protools or a comporable program, but there are also a lot of people who record analog and dump into protools for editing and mixing. It all depends I guess.