OK i say this tongue and cheek...
but god dammit if I lay down the cash 2 BT Bricks and I dont hear an improvement or a nice added sonic taste over my onyx Mackie pres I'll be very disappointed in everyone who has spoken praise about this item and I will never forgive "you"!
And I am buying a pair of Kel HM-1s and the same goes for them too!
If I am not happy, as punishment, I will add a signature to my profile that will be very contraversal!
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2 is always better than one. Why else do you think people buy d
2 is always better than one. Why else do you think people buy dual mic pres and 2 of the same mics? It's not always about recording in stereo. It's about options. And its not about buying the HM-1 strictly for the brick..i have other mic pres for that mic and I have other mics in which to feed into the brick.
Besides If I buy just one HM-1 and one brick I will have 13 mic pres and 13 mics. I am very superstitious.
You'll be happy with the purchase Stickers, no worries. It's a
You'll be happy with the purchase Stickers, no worries. It's a totally wise move. Not to mention the fact that you'll be able to build a good tube collection to give exponentially increase your tonal options with those bricks (or any other tube pre). Once you have a decent tube pre (like a brick) one of the wisest investments you can make after that is investing in some quality NOS tubes.
You're right, it's all about having choices and options.
Congratualtions on your new purchase!
Only an idiot buys gear based on the blind faith of what people
Only an idiot buys gear based on the blind faith of what people say on a forum. You have the ability to make your own decisions on what is best or good for you. All that can be said with certainty is that the Brick is a good and decent peice of gear and a real good value. That doesn't mean it is going to appeal to everybody or that your going to get a thrill or get better tracks out of using it.
And blaming others because you buy something and don't like it is surely something a real pro would not do...
AudioGaff wrote: Only an idiot buys gear based on the blind fait
AudioGaff wrote: Only an idiot buys gear based on the blind faith of what people say on a forum. You have the ability to make your own decisions on what is best or good for you. All that can be said with certainty is that the Brick is a good and decent peice of gear and a real good value. That doesn't mean it is going to appeal to everybody or that your going to get a thrill or get better tracks out of using it.
And blaming others because you buy something and don't like it is surely something a real pro would not do...
Why be so rude to a post blatantly made in jest, gaff? Not too impressive for a moderator.
To be so outspoken in your opinions, which always seem very valid and with merit, why do you not use your real name here? Seems that would lend more credibility to your advice and your role as a moderator. You've never told us who you are or where you come from. Your posts are often very abrasive and I, for one, am curious about who you are. If you are truly the heavy hitter that you come across as being, I will easily be able to credit your ego, arrogance, and abrasiveness to your impressive resume and track record.
This is all coming from an admitted "nobody". Not looking to pick a fight. Just wondering who you are, that's all. If you don't want to tell us who you are, would you mind at least telling us why you're so secretive?
Cheers.
Phil Blackbourn wrote: AudioGaff is way to grumpy to be a modera
Phil Blackbourn wrote: AudioGaff is way to grumpy to be a moderator...
Audiogaff is shown as the moderator of this forum. He rarely appears here to "moderate" and when he does, it's often in the rude, abrupt, abrasive nature shown above. This has had me wonder for a long time who this person is, what his background is, and what his credentials for being a moderator are. For someone so smug and arrogant, I've never understood the shroud of secrecy around his identity.
Out of fear of being flamed here and starting an unnecessary flame war, I have always been cautious of asking him to identify himself. I suspect that others on this forum feel the same way, and thus have not posed this question. However, I feel that it's a fair and valid question, and regardless of the consequences to my standing at RO, I am cordially asking him to tell us who he is and why he is so abrasive with his advice, especially given the fact that he is the moderator of this forum.
I have always been open to and impressed with his advice. It is his delivery and underlying attitude that doesn't seem quite right. This thread seems to be demonstrative of that.
Hey buddy I understand your qualms. The groove tubes will be a
Hey buddy
I understand your qualms. The groove tubes will be a marked improvement over the mackies. I have a set of bricks. They are great preamps for most things.
One thing to keep in mind is that the brick doesn't have a -db pad on it. I believe the minimum gain is 25db. Which causes some problems when miking up drums.
Also I don't like the brick too much on vocals.
It works well as a DI for guitar and bass. Also does nicely on acoustic instruments.
But if i were you, i would go for a sebatron vmp-2000e. That is the newest preamp I have added to my studio and it is wonderful. I also have a vmp-1000e. Now I use them for everything. They sound great on everything. At the big studio we have an avalon 737 and ua 6176. This compares right on with those preamps. I think it sounds better on acoustic instruments. The sebatron has a very nice character and you can get some really nice hi gain sounds out of them.
So my vote would be to spend a few extra bucks and get the sebatron. They are top quality pro units. If you got this you could never find a reason to blame it on the forum. You won't have 1 complaint except that you want more.
I think their dealers also offer a 30 day money back guarantee. So try them out. You wont be sorry
The AudioGaff is not a computer. The AudioGaff is pure Energy a
The AudioGaff is not a computer. The AudioGaff is pure Energy and Light. NOW BOW DOWN AND DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!
But seriously......
But if i were you, i would go for a sebatron vmp-2000e
This has kind of been my feeling all along. The Brick is a very cool spare channel, or great for your first "gold" channel in a small home studio setup. And of course for its intended use as a live preamp. But once you start buying several of these, you could have better stuff for about the same money (Sebatron VMP2000). Don't get me wrong, I don't think you'll hate it; but my love affair with it kind of ended when I started building the SCA stuff (also cheaper per channel).
Reggie wrote: The AudioGaff is not a computer. The AudioGaff is
Reggie wrote: The AudioGaff is not a computer. The AudioGaff is pure Energy and Light. NOW BOW DOWN AND DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!!
But seriously......
But if i were you, i would go for a sebatron vmp-2000eThis has kind of been my feeling all along. The Brick is a very cool spare channel, or great for your first "gold" channel in a small home studio setup. And of course for its intended use as a live preamp. But once you start buying several of these, you could have better stuff for about the same money (Sebatron VMP2000). Don't get me wrong, I don't think you'll hate it; but my love affair with it kind of ended when I started building the SCA stuff (also cheaper per channel).
Probably all true, but I get the feeling this is a small home studio type operation so its probably appropriate.
Alright guys -- First - lay off Gaff. He's a knowledgable guy
Alright guys --
First - lay off Gaff. He's a knowledgable guy and is here to help. So, he may have mistaken your wit as pure sentiment, but let's give it to him, if you really are going out to buy a brick based solely on what others say here, you really must be smoking something. I wouldn't buy a solid gold microphone for $49 if everyone on the board recommended it if I hadn't listened to it yet.
So, if you are interested in the Brick - just be sure that:
1. The store you buy it from has a good return policy.
2. The store understands that you are buying the pre with the intent of evaluating it and it may end up being returned.
3. Make sure you have enough stuff to test it on within the 30 day (or so, depending upon vendor) return period. I can't tell you how many times I've bought something only to use it in 1 trial. Then, 6 months down the line, the REAL reason I bought it comes up and I don't like it for that purpose. Kinda sucks, cuz you don't get that good a return on your investment on E-bay.
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As for the moderators - true, you don't know any of them. However, mod's are chosen by others who evaluate their posts over time. If they don't know what they're doing, they'll quickly be exposed. Gaff is extremely knowledgable and if you don't believe me, check some of his previous posts.
Like all of us, we do get a little tired of some of the same old posts from time to time... (Which mic for x... / which cheap pre... / and so on...)
So, please lay off the attacks!
:D
J.
Phil Blackbourn wrote: well if you cant listen to the good peopl
Phil Blackbourn wrote: well if you cant listen to the good people that come in here looking for advice and end up feeling like an idiot then i am jumping ship.... i am going to join kurt... :(
Oh, nice try stirring up trouble... :roll:
We all listen to good people here and no one tries to make anyone feel like an idiot. If you don't like what the mod says, fine. Ignore him/her. There's no reason to suggest that he/she doesn't know what they're doing or attack them.
Let's face it, there are so many topics out there stating that "Based on what you guys say, I'm gonna buy "X". " Or, "After reading the reviews, I've decided to buy "Y". "
Gaff is simply stating the God's honest truth. If you buy anything based on others' opinions, then you deserve to have it suck for you.
There is NO excuse nowadays for not being able to "Try before you buy" or at least buy it for an approval period.
So, lay off please stop trying to insight a fight.
J.
Cucco wrote: Alright guys -- First - lay off Gaff. So, please
Cucco wrote: Alright guys --
First - lay off Gaff.
So, please lay off the attacks!
:DJ.
I haven't attacked the guy one bit, and I was very clear about that in my first post. I just want to know who he is, that's all. And if not, why his identity is such a big secret, especially given the fact that he's a moderator.
As I've already said, I have always been impressed with his advice. I know this guy knows what he's talking about. A quick dig through his posts confirms that, and I don't question it for one second. As Phil said, his posts are consistently rude and abrasive, as if he doesn't want to be here. Yet he's a moderator. I, too, get annoyed with the same old posts asking what the best mic is for x, or the best preamp to go with mic x, whatever. I just say, "oh, there's another one," and I go to the next thread. No big deal. There's no good reason to berate someone just because they made a repetitive post, especially if you're a moderator. And, given gaff's attitude, and all the mod's that will back him, I am completely aware that I could get myself flamed out of here. That would be unfortunate, but it's happened to members before. That's not my intent. I do not condone the other guys on this thread that poked fun at the guy. That was never my intent. I'm not looking to incite a fight or a flame war. I'm just asking who he is, and why he is so consistenly rude to other members. That's just not cool. Aside from that, I think he's always been spot on with his advice.
stickers wrote: I would just think it would be funny if Gaff had
stickers wrote: I would just think it would be funny if Gaff had tin ears and couldnt track or mix with the skills equal to a 15 year old noob with a roland hard disc recorder with radio shack mics and computer desktop monitors.
I would just think it would be funny if Gaff were given a Roland hard disc recorder, radio shack mics and computer desktop monitors and still made a good recording. :P
Cuz, you see, that's what pros do. They use the equipment they're given and they make it work.
Come on now, enough mud slinging - let's get back to work now.
J.
AudioGaff doesn't really mean to be mean and abrasive and althou
AudioGaff doesn't really mean to be mean and abrasive and although he/she often thinks like a computer, is quite human. Often times the advice is not to the specific poster as it is general advice meant for the mass.
I don't use my real name because I'm not here to be your buddy nor am I looking for pen pals. Other people can be the forum nice guys. I just give or rather blurt out advice and state my opinion as I see it. I don't need to prove myself or my justify my background to anyone. Everyone is free to take what I say or leave what I say and I never cry foul if I am wrong or make a mistake. I pretty much don't get caught up in the politics or BS between people, I rarely reply or post anything that doesn't have what I consider real value. I try to not waste time or bandwidth or ring up my posting numbers with non valued social crap. Yet, I can enjoy the banter of a good contstrucive debate that stays on topic. I guess I could be labled the teacher everyone loves but hates....
And Reggie, you got me busting a gut with the energy, light and Kool Aid..
Those that support and/or value my words Thank You. Those who don't... Well, that's ok too because I'll bet most of them still learn a good nugget or two from the words written by this crusty old bastard...
The brick didnt spank the onyx pre at all. I would say it is ju
The brick didnt spank the onyx pre at all. I would say it is just different and not even different in a better way. I would say on par. I did a spaced pair with C4s. I had brick going to the C4 near the 12th fret and the other sp C4 behind the bridge using the onyx pre. The second brick I used with a sp C1 for her vocals.
I did not like her voice going threw the brick so used an onyx pre. Then just to test, the c4 on the 12th fret I switch from the brick to the onyx. I found the onxy to be a little to present on that part of the acoustic while brick gave it smoother yet focused sound. so i stayed with the brick on the 12th fret of the acoustic
Sooo.. I have concluded, the brick won't do all jobs better than the onyx pres but the birck might on some apps. It will always be a shoot out. The Onyx pres are really really nice.
numrologst wrote: Hey buddy I understand your qualms. The groov
numrologst wrote: Hey buddy
I understand your qualms. The groove tubes will be a marked improvement over the mackies. I have a set of bricks. They are great preamps for most things.
One thing to keep in mind is that the brick doesn't have a -db pad on it. I believe the minimum gain is 25db. Which causes some problems when miking up drums.
Also I don't like the brick too much on vocals.
It works well as a DI for guitar and bass. Also does nicely on acoustic instruments.
But if i were you, i would go for a sebatron vmp-2000e. That is the newest preamp I have added to my studio and it is wonderful. I also have a vmp-1000e. Now I use them for everything. They sound great on everything. At the big studio we have an avalon 737 and ua 6176. This compares right on with those preamps. I think it sounds better on acoustic instruments. The sebatron has a very nice character and you can get some really nice hi gain sounds out of them.
So my vote would be to spend a few extra bucks and get the sebatron. They are top quality pro units. If you got this you could never find a reason to blame it on the forum. You won't have 1 complaint except that you want more.
I think their dealers also offer a 30 day money back guarantee. So try them out. You wont be sorry
looks like this dude discovered what i did about the brick.
Why not buy one of each to see if you like them? Let us know how
Why not buy one of each to see if you like them?
Let us know how you get on 8-)