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i was thinking of getting the Behringer V-Amp Pro guitar amp modeler for $170. Anyone know about it and if its a good deal?
Thanks s lot any advice
-Sam

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anonymous Sun, 10/16/2005 - 06:49

You could try to find it used for about 100$, with that amount of money, it's really worth it's price.

I've had the normal V-Amp 2 for three years (Pro just has more connections and it's rackmountable, but the modelling is same in both of them), and it has been quite useful.
For amateur home recording it amazing, especially if you don't have good and versatile amp and a good mic and a preamp. After some time you probably notice its shortcomings (like I have done now), but it still doesn't lose all of its value.

CoyoteTrax Sun, 10/16/2005 - 07:05

Sam, are you looking at multi-effects and amp/cab modelers Just for recording in your studio?

Do you plan to use it for Bass AND Guitar?

And are you planning on pathing the modeler you choose to feed directly into a DAW? Or do you plane to use it for reamping sometimes as well?

The V-Amp Pro isn't bad and a lot of guys like it (and a lot of guys don't, of course). There are a lot of guys that will tell that all amp modelers suck. But, that just isn't true. Amp/cab/effects modelers have their place and Direct tracking is very popular depending on the music you're recording. I've used the V-amp effects and gave them up for Line 6 because I felt that for almost the same price the Line 6 XT technology was much more realistic dynamically and substantially more realistic as an effects/cab/amp/mic modeler for Guitar AND Bass.

Yeah, the V-Amp isn't bad but if you're going directly into a DAW and your purchase is mostly for recording use I highly recommend taking a good look at the new Tonelab stuff coming from Line 6. The single channel version handles Guitar, Bass, and has an XLR In for mic's because it's got some interesting mic pre emulators.

I've been using the Line 6 Guitar Port for about 2 years now and it's a dream for some applications when I need it. I like the Fender Bassman patches and the Tube Preamp patches for Bass and the Delays, Modulations, and Cab/Mic'd Cab simulators are fantastic for reamping and DI ambient guitar work.

The analog audio outputs on the guitar port are great for feeding external amps for mic'ing and re-amping.

Like I said, the V-amp isn't bad for Direct work, but in my opinion for the same money the Line 6 Guitar Port and Toneport kill the V-amp (pro) hands down for edge, realism, dynamic tracking of your guitars/bass pickups, qualities and finger/picking styles. The Toneport is streeting for $129 at MF and there's a dual channel model with even more features that'll be around $199 when it comes out at the end of the month.

Something to consider and just my opinion.

moonbaby Mon, 10/17/2005 - 10:42

Sam the Man (#1)!!!
If I understand correctly, you DON'T want this for bass, right?
Do you want it to "merely" replace an amp the guitarist is using?
Will you need to "re-amp" with it?
Do you want effects (reverb, flanger/chorus, delay, etc.)?
Do you want it to make your breath sweeter?
What will it be connected to (mixer, another amp, a soundcard)?
What type of guitar playing/music- acoustic or electric?
These will all indicate what you should be looking at.

moonbaby Mon, 10/17/2005 - 10:52

Sam the Man!!!
Do yourself a favor and stay clear of the cheap Behringer gear.
Everything that Uli Behringer makes is a cheap knock-off of the "good stuff".
For whatever it's worth, I own a room full of vintage guitar amps. The ONLY modeller that even comes close to replicating them is a Line6 POD. Decent touch dynamics and effects, much MUCH better build quality, and flexible connections. And the GuitarPort is the same basic guts with less user-friendly features. So take a serious look at the Line6 gear....You'll be glad you did!

anonymous Mon, 10/17/2005 - 20:01

I had a Line 6 POD 2.0 for a while, then upgraded to the V-AMP Pro. Behringer name aside, it just sounded better to me. For the money, it's tough to beat.

A point to note: I still mic up *real amps* for all my main rhythm tracks and only use the V-Amp for cleans/leads/overdubs/fills/etc... when a different character is needed. I've yet to hear one of these digi-modeling units that is capable of completely replacing a good amp/cab/mic setup...

CoyoteTrax Mon, 10/17/2005 - 21:13

MilesAway wrote: I've yet to hear one of these digi-modeling units that is capable of completely replacing a good amp/cab/mic setup...

That's the most nearly perfect statement anyone can make on this topic.

And when it comes to ambient guitar sounds/leads/arpegiations/textures/etc., it's very difficult to beat a powerfully programable modeler that has the "sound" that defines Ambient for you as the individual artist.

Tommy P. Tue, 10/18/2005 - 18:57

CoyoteTrax wrote: [quote=MilesAway] I've yet to hear one of these digi-modeling units that is capable of completely replacing a good amp/cab/mic setup...

That's the most nearly perfect statement anyone can make on this topic.

And when it comes to ambient guitar sounds/leads/arpegiations/textures/etc., it's very difficult to beat a powerfully programable modeler that has the "sound" that defines Ambient for you as the individual artist.

Both points very true, IMHO. Really sums it up well.