How to make a guitar transparent ?
When i think about ART looking at something that is transparent
you can see through it but there is still colour and something
on the picture but the picture is just transparent.
How can i do this a guitar or vocal source to make it transparent
like how ART does transparent art.
Would it be layering the guitar but some how make the guitar
audio clip transparent see through?
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I hope this thread can go on forever, like that "Tuning the bass
I hope this thread can go on forever, like that "Tuning the bass" thread over here: http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=148863&page=1&pp=25
Truly great stuff. My hat is off to you Mister Walters. (y)
if any man can make this a 100 page post good ole walters can, h
if any man can make this a 100 page post good ole walters can, he's like talking to a 3 year old, you tell him to do something, and he asks another question. i'm guessing he's foreign or 12. sorry gotta edit this not sure this forum originates from the US so i retract that and replace it with english isn't his first language.
It's all becoming crystal clear........ He IS going for the worl
It's all becoming crystal clear........
He IS going for the world record!!!!!
100 posts in 9 days and still going strong.
Please make him succeed, post as many answers as you can (both sensible and ridiculous) so he can carry on with replying with three stupid questions per answer.
Of course, because posting is that timeconsuming, we can't aspect of him to read the enormous amount of valuable information that is already on this board.......... :lol: :lol:
I'll bite. I think he is talking about something like compresso
I'll bite.
I think he is talking about something like compressor ducking, i.e. when the voice talks, the music drops in volume. Except making the overlay track with 'transparency' instead of silence so that when you bounce the vocal track and the background track together, when the vocal is silent, the background music is audible. So doing it all on one track.
Clearly impossible. And why would you want to do it anyway if you can have 2 tracks.
Walters have you tried audio scrubbing? A brillo pad would perhaps work best here....and be careful, you don't want to scratch the monitor glass and ruin that transparency!
walters wrote: 1.) ok i record a keyboard pad sound and the keyb
walters wrote: 1.) ok i record a keyboard pad sound and the keyboard patch sound has a sweep
sweeping the frequency response of the patch thats on track#12.) Track#2 i record a guitar
3.) i bounce Track#1 and #2 to track#3
4.) Now track#1 and track#2 are superimposed
a.) Which Track is on top which is on the bottom?
b.) i would like to put the keyboard pad on the bottom?
how do i do this?5.) Once i got the keyboard pad on the bottom and the guitar on the top i can have the keyboard pad sweeping its frequency THROUGH the guitar HOLES in the Spectum. So the guitar is very Clear and Light letting the keyboard pan sweeping its frequency response THROUGH the guitar track how do i do this?
6.) Just like the Sun shining through the clouds or the sun shining through the Tree leaves just stricks of it get through or maybe more
7.) How do i do this?
Why on earth (assuming you're from this planet) would you want to bounce two completely seperate recordings of two completely different instruments down to a single track, when you have 32 tracks to play with? (PT LE, right?)
It sounds to me like you're in the wrong field of "art". There's only so much visual arts involved in audio - the pretty patterns the faders make during automation playback and the pretty colors of the onscreen representations of audio waveforms.
Then again, if you keep scrubbing, you just might be able to reach in there and pull the keyboard pad out through the tiny little holes. Good luck and let me know how you do it when you finally succeed.
Dan_Pence wrote: There's only so much visual arts involved in au
Dan_Pence wrote: There's only so much visual arts involved in audio - the pretty patterns the faders make during automation playback and the pretty colors of the onscreen representations of audio waveforms.
Dude, that's why I got into audio in the first place. blinking lights, knobs to twist, and AUTOMATION WOOHOOOOOO!
:twisted:
Translucent audio can be achieved by applying olfactory and tact
Translucent audio can be achieved by applying olfactory and tactile properties to outer edge of the sound wave. This is simple to do. First you isolate the density of the wave (where it oscillates around the prime, with an extra db to compensate for the time code errors) using spectral abstraction. Then, when the densest part of the wave has been isolated, but before it is fully abstracted, route the top half of the wave form (not the bottom half, unless you want it sound like bad 60s Op art as it looked in the 80s) through a sound fractal unit. The sound fractal unit, since it only has one half of the wave form, can reverse the density of the original waveform, without altering in any way, its sonic content.
Voila!!! Translucent Audio.
There are lots of top studios that do this with convolution inductance, but I found the above method much more straight forward.
Man this is better than Saturday Night Live or the Dave Chappel
Man this is better than Saturday Night Live or the Dave Chappel show.
I seriously have tears in my eyes. And it's because people like walters are loose in the community. :(
I saw a program on the Discovery channel tonight about chimpanzes, and how the scientists can develop their brains to be as smart as a 4 year old human being.
So I have to ask....
Are you a monkey?
Do you know what a banana is?
And how can I make my banana's translucent?
Walters. Here's the deal. If you're serious, get someone to he
Walters. Here's the deal. If you're serious, get someone to help you translate cuz no one here is really understanding what you're after.
Two, R E A D. Read the posts, read other threads, read manuals. Read anything you can get your hands on in order to aquire the language so you can better communicate in situations such as this.
From what I've read thus far in this nonsensical thread, you probably just need to EQ your tracks so you take out most of the bottom end and low mids on most everything except the keyboards.
There's no need to bounce if you've still got tracks available, by the way.
nonsensical thread? are your serious , sorry you don't know the
nonsensical thread? are your serious , sorry you don't know the
answers to my questions that doesn't make it nonsensical because
you can't understand the question with the correct answer. Maybe
you need to read some manuals and go on google not me don't
project it on me thats your problem not mine
Todzilla wrote: Translucent audio can be achieved by applying ol
Todzilla wrote: Translucent audio can be achieved by applying olfactory and tactile properties to outer edge of the sound wave. This is simple to do. First you isolate the density of the wave (where it oscillates around the prime, with an extra db to compensate for the time code errors) using spectral abstraction. Then, when the densest part of the wave has been isolated, but before it is fully abstracted, route the top half of the wave form (not the bottom half, unless you want it sound like bad 60s Op art as it looked in the 80s) through a sound fractal unit. The sound fractal unit, since it only has one half of the wave form, can reverse the density of the original waveform, without altering in any way, its sonic content.
Voila!!! Translucent Audio.
There are lots of top studios that do this with convolution inductance, but I found the above method much more straight forward.
If you look hard enough, your answer is in here. It may not be as easy or plain as you want, but that would be impossible to give as there is no set answer. There is no single switch to flip that will give you translucent superimposed audio. Unless your recorder has a diametric phase skew switch, which most of the low-end gear does not. Besides, you would need to have a grasp on how to collimate the response on your compressor optics to really have anything decent to work with.
But I guess great things have been done with less....
If you are having trouble with something specific regarding the sonic properties of fractal propagation waves, just ask and I'm sure someone here will be willing to help you once they know what you are looking for a little better.
Good luck! :) 8-)
Todzilla, though joking, may be on to something. It seems we hav
Todzilla, though joking, may be on to something. It seems we have a synesthesia problem here. Walters is obviously a visual-spatial thinker without a grasp on the exact vernacular as applies to music. In order to make a pad sporatically transparent one would have to put spectral analyzers on both tracks, following the EQ's and sweepable filters. Then you would be able to actually visualize the situation. This will be extremely tedious...and it WILL involve automation. You must automate the frequency knobs of the two EQ's using mid-to-low Q settings to isolate the exact frequencies where the guitar notes (and their corresponding harmonics) hit. Boost the guitar note by note using the automation curves to "follow" the guitar around the spectrum. At the same time you must cut the pad frequencies out wherever the guitar frequencies are boosted...this would also be automated and once again... EXTREMELY TEDIOUS!
The other option would be ducking...in combination with an automated width-control plugin.
If you (like me) think in a visual-spatial manner, SOME of these words seem to describe audio perfectly. But I don't know if you will actually "see" any translucency in the audio unless you take a bunch of acid.
PS- I used to be able to "see" if two spinning records were perfectly in time...but never when I was stone-cold sober.
oh really you guys are joking i thought this was a pro audio f
oh really you guys are joking i thought this was a pro audio
forum i must be at the wrong site. Do you know which site
has serious people that like to talk about pro audio gear
and exchange ideas because this one just likes to joke around
can you give me site names so i can talk to serious people?
Kungfulio gave you a site to visit......try there....see what yo
Kungfulio gave you a site to visit......try there....see what you can learn from them.Until then, act civil.I think it is clear that the questions you are asking and in the way you are asking them is a confusing jumble and taking offense to others spending their time trying to explain the best they can only to have you reply in a crappy manner will only cause those who were REALLY trying to help, back off and become non-responsive.Capice?Theres plenty of 'pros' on here but none that seem to want to take any more of their time to assist you.Its probably because of your attitude.Just a professional suggestion.
I don't think im the one with the attitude problem look at the
I don't think im the one with the attitude problem look at the
replys what they say insulting me and making fun of me and joking around i think before you judge me on what type a
person i am there always is a action and a reaction and i think
for you over seeing this forum you know whats going on
and your letting it go by.
So asking question after question= attitude problem really wh
So asking question after question= attitude problem
really when?
dude get this man no one in this whole site has answered
none of my questions its been a big joke and a laugh its
pretty sorry actually that if you guys are engineers or whatever
into pro audio giving me answers like if i asked a guy at the
car wash or a gardener it would be the same answer you
guys give me which is nothing and clowning around its pretty
sad i think to be acting like that at your age even on a forum
for pro audio.
johnny has nothing to do with automation thats another topic an
johnny has nothing to do with automation
thats another topic and concept. I know what
automation is im not that stupid