check it out yall http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/ hope that helps

D112 half in the hole and a 57 on the beater side on the edge bout a inch away from the head.

sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

JohnB99 wrote: sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

Are you kidding??? I think it's most appropriate to use mic stands to hold microphones, but that's just my opinion...

Dan_Pence wrote: [quote=JohnB99]sickyboy:

I'd like to try this, what do you use to hold the two mics?... Where do you put the 57 on the beater side.Thanks for the help!

Are you kidding??? I think it's most appropriate to use mic stands to hold microphones, but that's just my opinion...

lol :p

Ok but what to do when a drummer doesn't have a hole in the front of the kickdrum? I don't think our drummer would approve if we created one manually. Tried to put a mic before it without a hole, but it sounds muddy, and loses all the kick, wich is basically what you're trying to capture.

cutting hole in kick drum

I play with a drummer who had a kick drum (head) without any hole in it. I used a metal can, you can use a glass, or anything that is round and appox. the right size hole your looking for. I think I used a peanut can jar, it was about 4" or so around. Any how...
Trace around the jar (or round object) with a black marker, then use a razor blade to cut the hole with.
It took me about 5 to 10 minutes
My drummer was :D after I finished.

sander_8 wrote:
Ok but what to do when a drummer doesn't have a hole in the front of the kickdrum?

Easy-- You take the entire head off. I do this a lot for the heck of it anyway. Keeps air from blowing into the mic as much.

Off with his head!!!

hehe thnx :P I'll try reggies solution first I think ;)

Re: cutting hole in kick drum

Pre Amp wrote: I play with a drummer who had a kick drum (head) without any hole in it. I used a metal can, you can use a glass, or anything that is round and appox. the right size hole your looking for. I think I used a peanut can jar, it was about 4" or so around. Any how...
Trace around the jar (or round object) with a black marker, then use a razor blade to cut the hole with.
It took me about 5 to 10 minutes
My drummer was :D after I finished.

Easier to just heat up the can on a burner and press it on the head and turn. :)
Melts like buttah', be carefull and wear mitts though.

Re: cutting hole in kick drum

Vince Jaeger wrote:
Easier to just heat up the can on a burner and press it on the head and turn. :)
Melts like buttah', be carefull and wear mitts though.

This works really well, I second the technique.

Spence:

Thanks for the slap - To rephrase my question :is there a floor stand or something that you can use to put the mic close to the floor instead of taping it onto a box like we have done?... Do you use the desktop stand, the little tripod stand or what?

Sorry for looking dull here, but I'm trying to keep the cr**p (like boom stands) out of the way of the drummer...to keep him happy, but get a good recording - Any help appreciated...

Still open - where do you recommend on the beater side - how high, position from the beater, etc to get a good sound?

John

Four words - Earth Works Kick Pad - I swear by it.

GCPA - beater side or centered on the hole?

i have a cool square on my kick drum i cut out

my hole on mine was gonna be squarish ... til i was going back to clean the hole up with an exacto knife and the head slit all the way across on me .... it probably would have been smarter if i took the head off and did it

haha .. i'm also playing with a beater head with a hole in it .. i turned it so that my beaters on my double bass pedal hit just above the hole .... it doesn't sound too bad ..... just isn't as loud as it could be

"Heat the can up and twist it", what a great frinkin idea. I will try that one next. Thanks for the great tip!

GCPA845 wrote: Four words - Earth Works Kick Pad - I swear by it.

Earth works kick pad? Tell me more! I have heard one of those on a demo CD, off the Earthworks web-site, and I liked what I heard ALOT!!!
Did you buy just the "kick pad". Or did you buy the set of 3 mic's as well?

Earthworks can't steer ya wrong, the Kick Pad is great! I've also heard a lot of good things about the Yamaha Subkick. Kind of novelty-like, but supposedly captures the kick better than most mics. Anyone here use one?