A company lying in advertising????? :shock:

I thought this was America. - it can't happen here. Say it ain't so.

I wondered about that claim, too. A bass player who uses my room had one. The gate was a bit choppy and I personally didn't think that it sounded any better than, say, a dbx 166. I think that all they did was take the little LED opti-jobbies that are used in their power amps as "limiters" and adapt them to that box.A good VCA-based design is still very valid and is more variable, envelope-wise, than an LED design. Not very impressive.

There is nothing in that writeup that constitutes a lie, because there is nothing in that writeup that constitutes a fact.

dwoz

It's all in the ear of the beholder in this case. Aside from taking the circuit apart (or reading the schematic), theres' no way to tell exactly what kind of opto circuit is in there. The cost is probably the give-away. My guess it's the LED variety, but who knows?

I don't view Carvin as a very high-end/esoteric company, (although I've never used their stuff to comment on the sound or quality) but they do seem like a brand that tries harder than the big guys. My guess is that it's someone else's design, and they put their name on it, in a "contractual" arrangement.

dwoz,

You don't think they're pointing out a fact on stuff like
"Your sound will be open and natural – not boxy and sterile – even under heavy compression!"?

They practically make this thing sound like it will cure cancer.

Just on a side note. I have used one of their mixers in live sound environment and it was very good.

-Chris

blaumph2cool wrote: dwoz,

You don't think they're pointing out a fact on stuff like
"Your sound will be open and natural – not boxy and sterile – even under heavy compression!"?

They practically make this thing sound like it will cure cancer.

Just on a side note. I have used one of their mixers in live sound environment and it was very good.

-Chris

So, the sound will be open and natural. WHat does that mean? Means nothing. The words evoke certain feelings, but in themselves mean nothing. Not boxy and sterile...again, what do these mean? Nothing! What's "heavy compression"? undefined!

"we didn't skimp and use the typical VCA's"... that's like me saying "I didn't skimp and use the typical diesel fuel in my honda civic"...of COURSE they didn't use VCAs...its an OPTO for chrissakes. meaningless words.

"The difference is audible"...I'm sure it is. That isn't an assertion of quality.

"classic, distortion-free, studio sound that top engineers and musicians demand"...this sounds like a statement of quality, but it really means that they've built something that their paid endorsers will use, if they are paid to do so.

dwoz