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anonymous 8 October 2005

and survey says?.

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zemlin Sat, 10/08/2005 - 19:18

SIR has a latency of 16384 samples. If you software does not support latency compensation for plugins, you will have to add that delay yourself.

One easy way is to put SIR on everything else, but disable WET - run it all dry. The latency is still there.

A simple delay probably introduces less overhead.

zemlin Sun, 10/09/2005 - 05:03

zemlin wrote: SIR has a latency of 16384 samples.

It appears I'm wrong. That must have changed in one of the more recent updates.

The new magic number, straight from the SIR web site is 8960.
Also turned up the [="link removed DELAY plugin[/]="link removed DELAY plugin[/]

Also, there's a lot of noise being made about the R66 reverb. It's more expensive than SIR - less expensive than Altiverb - and I'm impressed with what I've heard messing with the demo version. Currently a [[url=http://="http://www.inuamusi…"]"Group Buy"[/]="http://www.inuamusi…"]"Group Buy"[/] thing going on that ends this week.

GuyJohnson Sun, 10/09/2005 - 14:49

I, too love Altiverb, and upgraded to the latest version, even though Logic Pro now has a convolving 'verb. Which is good, but not as good as Altiverb.

IMHO it is as good as rack reverbs, as I know a few, and the copied patches are the Dog's Bollocks. As well as a plate, and old spring 'verbs.

I got hooked with Altiverb on my old G4/400 Mac (which was not supposed to be able to run it) three years ago: Stunning reverbs, in realtime. Suddenly, I could mix within the computer! WOW.

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John Stafford Sun, 10/09/2005 - 17:29

SIR crashes my computer, although I think the problem is with one of my drivers. I sometimes use one of those little Echo PCMCIA cards that can be a problematic.

Anyway, if I want to add a little dimension to a dry voice recording, Sonitus FX is great, especially the early reflections, which I find invaluable. It can really make voices come alive, but requires lots of experimentation.

I think SIR is fantastic when I can get it to work.

John Stafford

zemlin Sun, 10/09/2005 - 17:53

John Stafford wrote: Anyway, if I want to add a little dimension to a dry voice recording, Sonitus FX is great, especially the early reflections, which I find invaluable. It can really make voices come alive, but requires lots of experimentation.

Yes, the reverb formerly knows as Ultrafunk is one of my favorites as well - and I also use it often just for the early reflections. 8-)

anonymous Tue, 10/11/2005 - 04:23

I am not a big fan of using reverb on vocals all the time. In my opinion if you feel you have to reach for an effect all the time on vocals then chances are it isnt being recorded right in the first place. Some tracks (commercial and underground), have dry vocals and still sound good.

I add reverb once in a while (maybe) to add space, I also think you should not use effects because you think it should be there. Add effects because the track needs it not because you happen to have them.

bap Tue, 10/11/2005 - 08:30

Add effects because the track needs it not because you happen to have them.

So true, and it's a lesson many of us find ourselves continually re-learning! There have been times when I get up in the morning and compare the 'processing' I did the day before with original tracks, only to prefer the unprocessed version.

anonymous Tue, 10/11/2005 - 09:08

bap wrote:

So true, and it's a lesson many of us find ourselves continually re-learning! There have been times when I get up in the morning and compare the 'processing' I did the day before with original tracks, only to prefer the unprocessed version.

I learned that myself when I used to think as a noob... "Yeah I can add reverb to fix these little imperfections, so I dont have to record them perfect".

I look back on that and I think "That was a pretty sh!tty attitude to have when recording!"

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