Umm...well, we're using an old Rick, experimented with an SWR cab, also gone direct in (mackie 24/8)with RSP multi-band compression, tried using plug-in compression etc. I am wondering if there are any "standard" ways to get a great bass sound that I just don't know of. Thanks for your help.

compresion on the way in may be killing it? Bass and cheap or missused compression can give unpleasing distortion amd muddiness. I use the Avalon U5 DI.

My .02

Thanks Bear you rock! I'll mess with that. Have a great day.

I vote for the Precision too, I keep one in the studio and when it's offerred to guys after trying to get a sound with some of the stuff I get here, it single handedly, usually, fixes the problem. Use a good DI or instrument level pre.
See if you can check out the Drawmer MX60 pre which has been the choice of lots of players here when they hear it as the bass DI. Has compression and EQ avaiable on input if you need it,(Handy when controlling an exuberent player into a DAW) and it's pretty reasonable in price.
Because of leakage issues ,when we're tracking the whole band, I like to just use the direct and reamp if I need an amp sound but there is almost always alot of direct in most of my mixes. I'm not a big fan of the big 18" sound, but prefer a 4 10 cab with the players head of choice, but that's just me. Take care Logan

Dump the Rick...You'll spend more time than it's worth..They're not for the studio..In my Opinion.

Originally posted by Masternfool:
Dump the Rick...You'll spend more time than it's worth..They're not for the studio..In my Opinion.

I think it all depends on the style of music you are doing...
I've done some great recordings with a Rick.... BECAUSE it suited the music so well. I think a Rick can be good to great for retro music.
For more modern sounds it can suck big way...
(and sometimes it can work.)
Like I said: it depends...

Originally posted by gie:

I think it all depends on the style of music you are doing...
I've done some great recordings with a Rick.... BECAUSE it suited the music so well. I think a Rick can be good to great for retro music.
For more modern sounds it can suck big way...
(and sometimes it can work.)
Like I said: it depends...

You need a really good player to get good sound out of a Rick IMHO! It's all in the fingers!

I don't know, I've had pretty good luck with Ricks in the past. I take the amp and the DI, maybe a little bit of compression on the way in. Since you say your not getting any bottom I have to ask if the amp and DI are in phase.

Multiband compressors run everything through a bunch of filters. All filters ring. The focus, punch, rhythm, power, size and general balls of the resulting audio suffers.

I avoid multibands like the plague unless there is no way around the need to remix a song with processing and a little eq. won't work.

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Originally posted by Bob Olhsson:
Multiband compressors run everything through a bunch of filters. All filters ring.

What about software ones like Waves C4....
Do they also ring?

Yes!

My 2 cents worth: It is impossible to get a great bass sound with a bad bass player. I don't care how good the signal path is, it won't sound good. I have also found that it is impossible to get a bad sound with a great bass player. The bass is all about feel and the player knowing how to make his/her instrument sound right within the song. Now, if you've got a great bass player and great signal path then you've got something.
Personaly I like the Fender Jazz bass myself. It rocks, it's funky, and it's got the highs for slaping too. I'm not a fan of active pups for recording either.
As for the Ric, McCartney got a good sound from one and so did Chris Squire and Getty Lee, so I don't think your problem is the bass.
If you feel that the bass was recored right and the player is a good player, try rolling off frequencies below 400 and adding a little around the 7-10 khz area to bring out some definition on the bass lines. If you can re-record the bass try micing the bass itself. Yes, put a mic in front of the bass player close to the plucking area. Don't compress much until mixing if possible.

Here's another vote for the Avalon U-5. Just did a session yesterday with one of the area's top bass players using nothing but the U-5 direct into ProTools (U5 Tone set at 4 for a little extra top). Consensus verdict was excellent fat sound. Bass player couldn't believe there wasn't a tube hiding somewhere.

I never see fender basses in rock bands around here. If its high end its, Smith or Padulah or whatever 7 string bass they can get their hands on. These are great instruments but through a DI they're just too powerfull in the way lo end.

I have had real good results with a Warwick Fortress One($1400 I think) into a Avalon 737.

The DI everyone raves about to me is the Evil Twin. Rather high dollar. Anybody got one? Is it worth it?

The most real pro trick I know for bass (and guitar) is new strings. And none of this "they're just from this weekend" shit.

What are some favored brands?
Thoughts on Elixers?