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osmuir 25 July 2001

i was talking to this engineer ray [vinyl guy @ sterling mastering], and he told me you could do a m/s config. stereo setup with the cardiod as M and a sideways omni as the S [not a bipolar!]

i want to try it, but how does it work? phase wise and all that nonesense? how does it sound?

thanks.
--o

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osmuir Thu, 07/26/2001 - 05:34

well, that's not what 2 very credible engineers have said [i asked earl cohen last night when he was mixing a project of mine...he said it was really rich]. unfortunately, i have to commit it to tape w/out checking it [i'm gonna mid side it on my console]. maybe the omni does the phase thing w/o null points?

help?

stephen?

--o

dbock Thu, 07/26/2001 - 06:04

Given the determination with which you speak of "omni fudged side MS", I can only reccomend you try both ways: the traditional MS and the "new" MS. Here is a definition of MS:MS - Mid/Side. Use a single mic, which may be anything from omni to
hypercardioid, facing forward (mid) and a figure-eight facing to the
left. Remember that the back lobe of a figure-eight is _out of phase
by 180 degrees_ from the front. When you add mid plus side, you get a
left-pointing pickup. When you subtract mid from side (mid plus
inverted side), you get a right-pointing pickup. If the mid mic is
cardioid, the resulting left and right signals are cardioid at 90
degrees. Theoretically the result is the same as XY. In practice, due
to the limitations of real microphones and the effects they have on
each other (by physically blocking the other's sound field) MS can
often produce a purer sound, but requires a high quality figure-8
mic for the "side" signal.
You can report back to us the results of your comparison.

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