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Are both these designs based around a U67/87? If a U67 was refurbed would there really be that much difference between a U67 and an 87 because of the tube?

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anonymous Mon, 05/14/2001 - 08:32

I thought their B-6 was supposed to be closer to a KK67 capsule, and the B-0 was more like an even extended CK12, maybe somebody can clear this up. You know the whole thing about "let me try it out sounds like a pain in the ass for me (and my credit card) and the dealer" Usually if I ask around enough people can describe it thoroughly enough and compare it to classic gear or its attributes and they are dead on. I like to go with the dealer who has the best price, that to me is customer service, not something like a double warranty (I have yet to have a new product break in the first two years). Haven't been wrong yet with over $90K worth of purchase, so I am not worried about it at this point. If lots of people say the Kiwi sounds closest to a C12, I know that sound, if they say it sounds closest to a U87, I know that sound.

anonymous Mon, 05/14/2001 - 15:08

Hi all ,

with regard to the U87 to U 67 comparison ...they are altogether different beasts.. I have a vintage pair of each and the 67's are among the best vocal mics I have ever used. In fact the 87's which are fets, are no match for the 67's when it come to vocals. I find the the 87's almost harsh sounding compared to the 67's and 67's seem to suit both male and female singers well,(something i don't alway find even with 47's) All 4 of my mics are still original, including capsules.
I believe I remember George Massenburg saying his favorite vocal mic was the U67.
hope that helps,
Scott

anonymous Tue, 05/15/2001 - 05:38

To answer the original poster's question, here's what David Bock sent me regarding the sound of the U99:

>Thanks for contacting us. The U95 was >designed to be a unique sounding mic,
>free of some of the design "errors" >commonly found in tube mics. The U99
>however, was designed to be a modern, >more "open" U67. This was in response
>to prototypes I had built for people here >in LA, and it conformed to my "no
>NFB (negative fedback, as used in the >original U67) electonics" criteria.
>The U95S was designed to fill the U47/M49 >void. I designed and built all of
>them so you can say you got it right from >the horse's mouth.
>Sincerely,
>David Bock
>Sr.V.P.
>Soundelux Microphones

I've never heard a U67 firsthand so I really can't compare it to the sound of a U99...but I am really happy with my U99.

Brad

Dan Popp Tue, 05/15/2001 - 14:58

Originally posted by Scott Petito:
with regard to the U87 to U 67 comparison ...they are altogether different beasts.

Dear Scott,
Yes, I agree, although I find the U87 (with or without Stephen's mod) more useful for v/o than the 67. They are more "different" that one would expect. The '67 is more warm/full/plump/soft, and the '87 is more hard/inyourface. If the original poster wants to hear a U67 vs. and ELAM 251, check out the Celine Dion/Barbra Streisand duet, "Tell Him." (Streisand is on the '67). When diva mics collide! :p

Yours,
Dan Popp
Colors Audio
USA