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OK, I have a Roland VS-1680 which I've learned how to use. I want to try to use autotune for vocals. I know they have a module but it they don't make it anymore and it's too expensive to find.

I'd like to know how exactly I could use a standalone Autotune box with that recorder and if there's one recommended that's worthwhile and can be bought cheaply used.

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TheJackAttack Sun, 10/30/2011 - 17:08

Auto tune is a VST plugin. It works within your DAW. If you sing close to pitch it won't sound like a robot but if you sing like most of the crap on the FM dial you'll sound metallic. Not Metallica who sang before Autotune. A VST plugin that works in a much more organic fashion is Melodyne manufactured by Celomony.

TheJackAttack Mon, 10/31/2011 - 13:35

Most "producers" have been to too many rock concerts and clubs without ear plugs and have listened to too much pop crap and just assume that Autotune MUST be used. I guess that is true if you want to be T-Pain or whomever is similar. Using Autotune as a purposeful effect is another story and is an artistic (or autistic) decision. Cher for instance actually can sing but used obvious instances of AT in several songs as an effect. Most "hip hop" and "pop" musicans that swear by Autotune couldn't vocalize their collective a$$e$ out of a cardboard box with a map.

Sorry. Just a little rant. I'm so tired of groups that sound like crap on stage unless they are lip syncing to their grossly over post-produced "recordings."

Carry on.

audiokid Mon, 10/31/2011 - 14:50

TheJackAttack, post: 378321 wrote: Auto tune is a VST plugin. It works within your DAW. If you sing close to pitch it won't sound like a robot but if you sing like most of the crap on the FM dial you'll sound metallic. Not Metallica who snag before Autotune. A VST plugin that works in a much more organic fashion is Melodyne manufactured by Celomony.

I didn't realize we had this thread going here while I'm on another thread just dreaming away about autotune.
Maybe this is why I can't make vocals sound like top 40 autoturd. In the demo I was trying to get it to sound like that for a "youthful client" and it barely changed my voice the way expected. Thanks John, this gives me the heads up on who to target the next time. I'll make sure they can't sing!

RemyRAD Mon, 10/31/2011 - 23:19

I think some of the folks missed the question? I believe this person is looking for a live performance device, that's a hardware device. Yeah, they make that. I have an early one and there are others that work in real time, so to speak. Real-time in this case means fairly low latency. So it's coming out a few milliseconds after you sing it. But it's close enough in time, you'll still be on the beat. And since it actually can take you a few milliseconds on to the back side of the beat, you'll never sound like you're rushing. They come under numerous names I think mine is a Vocalist by DOD? Something like that. It's in a drawer just inside the control room underneath junk, basically where it belongs. But it has its own microphone input and can be used live, plugged into a PA system. It actually has some pretty cool presets that actually allow for real-time harmony vocals created from your single input. But you certainly have to know what key and you can change the key real-time but it could also be changed via MIDI. And the newer ones sound less electronic than the older ones that were more first-generation like mine. And it really all comes down on how much money you got? One of these devices could set you back a whole year's worth of singing lessons. Maybe two?

I know how to sing... so I don't. My mother was an opera star and that's just too much competition.
Mx. Remy Ann David

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