Skip that MPX crap. Don't go any lower than a PCM 90 and for few bucks more a used PCM91. You might also be able to snag a used TC M5000 that is just about as good as the PCM90/91 and does other effects as well. The M5000 can also be upgraded to a 2-engine (2 2-CH analog and digital I/O) or a 3 or 4-engine max(3 or 4 2-ch digital I/O but requires external converters) Plus you can upgrade it with MD2 and DSP toolbox option that gives you multiband comp/limiter and eq as in the Finalizer.

Have a look at the TC M-ONE. I used to have a Lex MPX100 and the move up th the M-ONE was enormous! And NOT expensive!
Dan

I second AG's comments, don't go any lower than the PCM 8x/9x in the Lexicon line. The M-One is a great sounding unit, but a little cumbersome to use as a true dual effects unit. The M2000 and M3000 are very good and very easy to get around on as dual effects units. To me, they sound more organic than the Lexicon's, but that may not be what you're looking for.

I own a MPX-1 and wished I had a PCM-91. The MPX is barely OK and does'nt house the converters like it's more advanced upscale sibblings. Better yet, you have the option of using memory cards with the PCM series (if necessary). I'm going to confess. I'm starting to really like S/W effects now-a-days. Some hold there own.

How about the Kurzwiel Rumour? It's fairly cheap and heard it may have the same reverbs as its big brother the KSP8. Has anyone heard it? (Excuse my spelling I'm not sure how Kurzweil is spelled.)

AudioGaff wrote: Skip that MPX crap. Don't go any lower than a PCM 90 and for few bucks more a used PCM91. You might also be able to snag a used TC M5000 that is just about as good as the PCM90/91 and does other effects as well. The M5000 can also be upgraded to a 2-engine (2 2-CH analog and digital I/O) or a 3 or 4-engine max(3 or 4 2-ch digital I/O but requires external converters) Plus you can upgrade it with MD2 and DSP toolbox option that gives you multiband comp/limiter and eq as in the Finalizer.

Old post, I know.

However, I own both an 81 and a 91, in addition to an MPX1 and the 1 is certainly not crap.

I own both an 81 and a 91, in addition to an MPX1 and the 1 is certainly not crap.

Having used just about every hi-end world class reverb at one time or another and currently owning many of them, I can say I very strongly Dis-Agree. The MPX1 is indeed crap. Mabe not the most foul and stinkyest of reverb crap, but crap non the less...

I define crap as Alesis 3630s and Behringer mixers.

No, it is not 500,000$ studio quality - however it is totally usable and acceptable. Perhaps it's that last part that some people around here have issues wrapping their heads around.

I'm not interested in stroking "hi-end world class reverbs." I'm interested in creating output, not listening to 60 second reverb tails all day.

I have a PCM 80 and the verbs can be exactly what you describe you are looking for. For the rich 80's tails, the PCM 70 is also great, but noisier than the newer models. The lower end units (MPX, etc) although usable in some situations, just don't cut it for this kind of thing. I find the difference to be stunning.

drbam

Just got a Kurzweil Mangler, brother of Rumour, will feed back with my observations soonest. David

I'll vote for the TC M1
cheers

Here's an awesome one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3278&item=3732020257&rd=1

:) :) :P