Hello RO, audiokid advised me that RO members may like to hear the story behind this console as well as follow the progress as it is refurbished back to it's original spec. (or beyond)
As you can tell by the pic,(below) it was stored in a garage and had been there for 4 years. It was covered, so despite the desert heat that the console would feel on a hot summer day, the dust did not get to play.
Since the M3000 is a rare console; not many have had an opportunity to hear one, let alone see one beyond pictures (even those are rare). Before I get to the details of my console and how it ended up in my possession... Let me shed a little light on the mystery of the M3000 to the masses, or at least those whom are unaware of its origin and history.
((((if you just want to see pics, I suggest you start scrolling now)))
A brief history of the M3000 (if you want more details, comment for them)
Depending on whom you speak to, many believe the M3000 as Amek's first "Large-Format Recording console". Officially introduced in 1979 as Amek's Top of the line console. A basic version of the M3000 sold for around $46,000.00. The first M3000 was actually installed in Amazon Studio's, Liverpool in 1978. The first one was more of a refined prototype then a production model. So far, Former AMEK staff in the UK, can count 8 (including Amazon) being built and delivered. All M3000's were in some way or manner custom built to the spec of each customer.
The 8 M3000's are:
Amazon Studio's, Liverpool UK
Aura Studio's, NYC NY USA
Trafalgar Rome, Italy (2 consoles)
Mayfair Studio's, London UK (some huge hits recorded with this one)
Enterprise Studio's, Burbank CA USA
Paul Ratajczak, LA CA USA
Klaus Schulze Germany (Keyboardist for Tangerine Dream)
Now it is easy to see why so little information is available on this console or even it's sound.
The M3000 set a new standard for Amek, the EQ was the first 4 band fully parametric (Variable Q on all 4 bands) console they had produced. It was also the first AMEK console to utilize automation (Allison 65K). The automation used the then high-enddbx 202 VCA's, 24 Buses, 8 aux's and Quad panning. the below picture just hides the sheer size of these, mine is approx. 108" wide and 48" deep. Or put another way, it filled a 5' x 12' open trailer, where you could not walk around the console inside the trailer.
The M2500 and the G2520 is essentially a baby M3000, using close to the same EQ and topology. Know you can kinda start to imagine how a M3000 would sound like.
Graham Langley designed the console from the ground up. Despite the seemingly popular myth that R. Neve had something to do with the design of this console and a few others of the same era. Let me be clear, R. Neve did not start to work with AMEK till after the bankruptcy of Focusrite in 1989. The design is pure GL.
All the engineers I have spoken to that have used this desk... in simple terms. Want it back or miss it dearly. The EQ has by far got the most comment, along the lines of "Best EQ ever created" "Control that just goes beyond words" "the Variable Q on all 4 bands goes from nearly a volume knob to damn near a notch filter". I ask anyone who has used one of these consoles to comment, I would be very interested in hearing your experience and thoughts. With only 8 built, (lets remove for a moment that AMEK at the time was a small company, that did not have the same market reach (or advertising budget) as Neve, MCI and a then very fast growing SSL) I know you are thinking what was the bad? Well, the only complaint was... reliability. Everyone loved the sound of the console,(mic preamp/EQ/Mix Bus etc..) it would just crap out at the wrong time. . Unfortunately, no matter how good a console sounded, if it cracked or popped during a take, it negatively effected the financial prospects of the studio.
I will leave it at that for now.
How did i get mine? well. This is were the backstory becomes somewhat important. Again, if i am babbling by all means scroll to the pics...
For years I have spoke of designing my own console from the ground up. (I know crazy idea) I even have a few threads on other forums discussing such. Anyway, were i am at in my day job actually opened some doors to actually achieve this lofty goal. During one of my many discussions of the topic with a co-worker. He offered me (at a good price) this AMEK M3000 as a frame to build on. Now, just like any crazy idea, you start down a path blind and not know were exactly you are going end up. .
Only the first 24 channels worked (part time) as the console was suffering from intermittent issues, hence why they moved it to the garage. Channels 25 through 36 served as parts to keep the first 24 serviced. Of the 36 channels only 28 faders were physically installed (removal of the blank fader panels shows that faders were at one time there). The console did come with a box of parts, most of which came from AMEK LA in 1996 when the previous owner had picked the console up. AMEK handed over all they had on hand at the time. The only physical issue was some missing braces, which was not attached to console when originally received in 1996. What shocked me more was it came with complete documentation. I mean every thing! From hand drawn schematics of the entire console, original manual, a 1979 Advert for the console and all the documents accumulated by previous owners, to include a letter from Amazon Studios.
At the time I got this home, I had huge plans and changes ahead for it. The idea's were flying and the excitement was gaining energy. But, like most cases of eager naivety, I had no clue of what I had or how significant it would be.
Like most here, I had never seen a M3000 before only vaguely ever heard of one. So i did a little research, found out how rare they were, but even then still not deterred from my original plans at the time. I will quote what I had stated on another forum (proaudiodesignforum)in regard to this:
"Now, at some point, no matter how eager you are to re-invent the wheel, when you have something like this in front of you. You pause. Unfolding the fragile schematics is like a walk back in time to the office of Langley and company. You begin to feel the amount of work that went into building something like this in the era it was done in. Then history at some point steps in and reminds you, only 15 of these were ever built."
Even then (2 weeks ago) I was unaware of the true number M3000's actually built. Today that statement is even more profound. The more I researched the more I became aware of just how remarkable of console this thing already is. Through simple google searches or speaking with fellow engineers whom have used this console, one thing was clear, this was not going to be a re-design of my idea's but a refurbishing of possibly the most underrated console ever created. Yes, my search did end up with communication directly with Graham Langley and Nick Franks. The closer we look at my particular console and it's details, the higher the belief is, that it is in fact the console from Amazon Studios, UK. (if you view the pics of the one in Amazon and compare it to mine, they are identical) There is more, that identifies it as coming from there. The frame and its construction type, were and when it was built, etc. The serial number will be verified once the "Serial number book" is located.
All the complaints about this console can be easily corrected and in my case will be. You will get to see every step, if you are so interested.
Joel
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Gette, post: 423081, member: 46761 wrote: Still working on it. j
Gette, post: 423081, member: 46761 wrote: Still working on it. just a slow and steady pace…. Car has become priority again...
my life story right there. family and car's.
pan60, post: 423084, member: 40762 wrote: I only like working on cars when I don't have to.
Classic quote right there! (y)
Lol, I hear ya both! the car has become a love/hate thing over t
Lol, I hear ya both! the car has become a love/hate thing over the course of the last few months. I have allot of money invested (as i am reminded by my wife's spread sheet of the build!) It is down to the details before she can be licensed and driven daily. No matter what it is, the more you modify it and bring it further away from "factory spec" the more issues you create. This applies to anything.
My car started as a normal 350 LT1 powered 97 SS Camaro (6 speed manual) , It had been highly abused and required a rebuild. (why I paid, at least initially, so little for it) Well… I can never just rebuild it stock!!!!!…. The lt1 became a 383 monster! Forged internals, 11.8:1 compression and the most radical cam profile I could get away with (244@ 0.50 and 252@.050. 110LSA). the 24lb injectors had to be replaced with 42.5 lb injectors, fuel pump had to be replaced with a higher flow unit and well the list goes on and on and on…
I have driven it and it is a blast! (side ways in all 6 gears) but, she is running way to rich at idle. so, chasing exhaust leaks, vacuum leaks, programming issues and so on and on and on…
So,, yeah, i love and hate it!!!!
When I was in my early 20's, I had a 1970 Buick Skylark, 2 door,
When I was in my early 20's, I had a 1970 Buick Skylark, 2 door, dual exhaust, 350 engine, with a quadra-jet 4 BBL carb. Dark Green. That baby could sit up and dance.
I could watch the speedometer go up - and watch the gas gauge go down - at the same time. LOL Which, wasn't a huge deal in those days, when gas was .59 a gallon. LOL
These days, I would need a second mortgage just to keep it filled up. ;)
FWIW, the above pic is not my car. My Skylark is probably now p
FWIW, the above pic is not my car. My Skylark is probably now part of some battleship decking somewhere, after having been crushed at a bone yard after a drunk driver hit me in 1983.
But the above pic looks exactly like what my car did.
I should have clarified. I apologize. ;)
What a great thread! I have an early Amek M2500 sitting in stora
What a great thread! I have an early Amek M2500 sitting in storage, waiting for a refurb. In a few weeks my basement will be ready to have the desk moved in. Then it will go more or less through the same rewiring process as Gette´s M3000. The patchbays need to be replaced, as well as a lot of the frame wiring is defective. Upto now I´ve refurbished the PSU and completely recapped everything.
What I currently have in my room is a Neve VSP (former Abby Road
What I currently have in my room is a Neve VSP (former Abby Road console) I have sold that and am replacing it with a VR72 that was originally installed in Japan. It does not have the surround options. (thankfully less crap to screw up the 2 buss ) an y way, will share pics of it once installed. I also have an option for a SSL9072J, but I am hesitant as I really prefer my Neve.
@Gette How very cool! Please keep us updated as you can...I lov
Gette
How very cool!
Please keep us updated as you can...I love threads like this.
As a personal observation, I wouldn't care in the least if the console didn't have surround capability, but I'm thinking in terms of "typical" song production ...I would guess that it would be an important feature if you were doing music or Foley for film.
I had a console back in the 90's - an O2R - that was able to do surround (5.1 only I think) and I used that desk for 4 years...during that whole time I never did one surround sound project on it...
I wasn't set up for it monitor wise, though I probably could have set something up quick and dirty, using my home theater surround system if I had wanted to; but I never did. I just never had a cause to, i was doing run of the mill sessions, recording typical singles, EP's and Albums; I wasn't doing music or sound for film, it was just never a market that was regionally available or that any clients were wanting to do .
So... Can I ask...and forgive me if you've posted about it already...what did you do with the Amek desk you were working on a few years ago?
@DonnyThompson Yeah the Neve VSP was cool, being that it was f
Yeah the Neve VSP was cool, being that it was from Studio 1 at Abby Road. I was just not using all of it and wanted my center section simplified for both sonic reasons as well as room for custom options. I still Have the Amek and it is still for sale. here is a pic of what I just sat in place of the VSP. Its a VR72 Legend that was originally installed in Japan. complete with custom made wood trim. I guess I could start another thread focused on this Neve and what I do to it IE: Mods, repairs etc...
I'm very excited to hear about your progress, and what you are d
I'm very excited to hear about your progress, and what you are doing as you go...
A Neve desk from Abbey Road Studio 1 ... Sigh ...I guess there might be something cooler and groovier out there in the audio world to think and talk about, but I'm sure as hell not coming up with anything else at the moment. ;)
-d.
audiokid, post: 421933, member: 1 wrote: Well, I just had to pos
Even on the inside....
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