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I'm looking at an amp that has a push button switch for -10dB/+4dB and I can't think what this would be used for? -10dB for floor pedals or +4 for rack units?

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moonbaby Wed, 05/05/2010 - 09:16

Close enough. Very few stomp boxes are designed to be fed a -10dB signal, more like a -20 to -30dB signal, but it beats a +4 signal which will pummel many stompboxes into breaking up really nasty. Ideally the -10/+4 switch will set both the Send level and the Return level to properly match the amp to the effects unit.

Guitarfreak Wed, 05/05/2010 - 17:37

Boswell, post: 347661 wrote: Is this switch in the external effects loop?

Yes, it only applies to the loop. I think I know what you were thinking, where if it was for the input for the amp you would use +4 for passive pickups or -10 for actives right? Or the other way around?

moonbaby, post: 347664 wrote: Close enough. Very few stomp boxes are designed to be fed a -10dB signal, more like a -20 to -30dB signal, but it beats a +4 signal which will pummel many stompboxes into breaking up really nasty. Ideally the -10/+4 switch will set both the Send level and the Return level to properly match the amp to the effects unit.

What could I run that would require a +4 signal? studio equipment that was not intended for guitar or amp processing I am guessing? Even guitar rack fx are still indeed designed to run with a guitar/amp signal in mind so I am a bit confused as to its practical use. Does it just change the loop from unbalanced TS to balanced TRS?

Boswell Thu, 05/06/2010 - 02:39

Guitarfreak, post: 347695 wrote: Yes, it only applies to the loop. I think I know what you were thinking, where if it was for the input for the amp you would use +4 for passive pickups or -10 for actives right? Or the other way around?

What could I run that would require a +4 signal? studio equipment that was not intended for guitar or amp processing I am guessing? Even guitar rack fx are still indeed designed to run with a guitar/amp signal in mind so I am a bit confused as to its practical use. Does it just change the loop from unbalanced TS to balanced TRS?

I don't know the amp you are talking about, but my guess is that the effects loop is unbalanced and the switch simply makes a 12dB difference in the send level and a corresponding 12dB in the return gain. You use it to select domestic-level outboard gear or professional-level.

As Moonbaby points out, that sort of switch has no meaning at the input of this type of amp.