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JazzHat 1 March 2018

Current vocal chain = Flea 47, Grace m103 pre (using both eq & the comp when tracking), using line-in on Focusrite Clarett 4 to to access the A/D converter, then thunderbolt into MacBook Pro / Logic Pro X daw. Recording in a treated room and I’m happy with the capture. . . sounds great for demos, SoundCloud, etc.

I’m going to try to track an album later this year. Would like to track in my studio and send it out to be mastered. While the above sounds great for demos, I’m told it’s not up to the level needed to track a commercial sounding album.

So the question: If I upgrade the weak link (Clarett) to a better converter/interface (Apollo8, Antelope, etc) can I expect to achieve Pro or commercial level tracking? . . . Or am I kidding myself with an interface upgrade and just need to bite the bullet, pay to track the whole project in a commercial studio in addition to hiring out the mastering? And the above will always be . . . Just a demo studio?

I don’t have the experience to separate marketing hype from reality. I really respect the experience & knowledge here. . . Thanks for any guidance!

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Tony Carpenter Thu, 03/22/2018 - 04:15

Boswell, post: 456276, member: 29034 wrote: Continuing the Neve part of this thread....

I've just come across a ProSoundWeb article about the 1073/1290 Neve plugin from UA. This plugin is either new or it has by-passed me up till now. Has anyone here used it?

I'm trusting that the link works for people who are not registered with PSW.

UA just released that 1290 version. Literally the preamp section (of 1073) as you know, only. Included in their Neve bundle now too. I’ve not used that, but I have the latest Neve 88rs and the 33609 in my collection, both very nice.

Tony

kmetal Thu, 03/22/2018 - 04:28

Not sure which model he uses, but my cousin loves his neve plug for his apollo rack/PT9/Mac Pro rig. He does instrumental rock, something along the lines of guitarist John 5. i only got to do the fun part, set up the rig, and build the studio, lol, havent had a chance to use the setup much personally.

DonnyThompson Thu, 03/22/2018 - 06:24

I've not used it, because I don't have a UAD system, though I might come across it eventually in my studio travels.
All the audio reviews I've read about it have been positive thus far, though there's also been a fair amount of negative outcry from current UAD users who aren't happy about the added cost of - I think - $90 (US)...
Those who are unhappy are customers who already have a UAD 73 sim, and are wondering why they need to pay another $100 (roughly) for another "authentic" 73 preamp sim.
I have no idea if the objections are valid or not.
I'm just relaying what I've seen being discussed on various audio forums and FB groups.
I wouldn't know either way, as I have no experience with any of UAD's Neve simulations.

kmetal Thu, 03/22/2018 - 07:42

Considering UAD launched UAD-2 in august of 2008, it seems their general focus has been on the software development side, with the octco and solo being introduced in '12, with minor updates to conversion, conectivity, and chip count shortly after that. they even opted to use very similar tech on their newest interface offering as well. i cant imagine they'll employ that gen in any newer devices, my question is how long till uad3?

in '08, if you were running wXP, you were getting 4 gb max, usable ram from your system, and 500gb 7,200rpm HDD, was getting the job done. an 8 core cpu was workstation level, dual core common. core 2 duo was still a thing [wtf]. The relative processing power UAD offered 10 years ago vs now is significantly different. I'm guessing UAD has some monsters brewing in their lab. Theres also alot of pluggin manufacturers not migrating to hdx format, staying native only in aax format, which begs the question of whats next for avid.

i wonder if dsp is going to make the leap into Vsti's? are they already?

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