I don't think so. people talk a lotta s**t
There's always going to be copyright and intellectual rights. You can't take that away from the composers.

I think music probably will be a streamed service (as indeed it already is) provided over cable or internet, but that doesn't necessarily alter the copyright situation. The copyright owner could still be recompensed each time his/her music is downloaded, just as it is now when you download from itunes etc. or when music is played as a tv programme introduction. Each time it's played, the owner gets a payment.

swanmusic, post: 166067 wrote: I was reading a book on the future of music and it mentions that in the future, music is going to be a service that you would sign up for like you get cable tv or internet. Also, there won't be any copyrights. I was kind of demoralized by it. Do you think it's likely to happen?

This was asked back in 2005. A lot has changed since 2005. I subscribe to Sirius, hate the sound of the music so I mostly listen to world news.

Collaboration is what I like today which has less to do with sound quality and more to do with community and the fun of it all.
My kids buy all their music from itunes. They seem perfectly happy with the sound quality.
I wonder what's coming in 2017.

Music will always be music - all that changes is the carrying medium and the distribution system.

We can't deny that people feel as if they don't have to pay for music and take it as a given.

I was just looking for quiet, relaxing music on spotify, and came across a whole series of white, pink, blue and red noise - 3 minutes of different hiss, that somebody is getting monitised on! I think it's people's right to give their music away if they wish, but giving away isn't the same as stealing.

Spotify = giving away for free anyway. Artists doesn't make money out of Spotify.

er, they do - well indirectly because spotify plays generate PRS needle time, so the composers certainly get the money, which might or might not be the performer.

My PRS and PPL income in total last year, was less than ten quid - so I guess I'm not making the money.

paulears, post: 446171, member: 47782 wrote: er, they do - well indirectly because spotify plays generate PRS needle time, so the composers certainly get the money, which might or might not be the performer.

My PRS and PPL income in total last year, was less than ten quid - so I guess I'm not making the money.

I know they 'money' but it's like 1000$ even for really successful artists. like .00000014$ per play

swanmusic, post: 166067 wrote: I was reading a book on the future of music and it mentions that in the future, music is going to be a service that you would sign up for like you get cable tv or internet.

Subscription services already exist. But you would have to change quite a few laws to remove intellectual property and copyright. I don't see that happening...it's one of the first things that, as a country (USA) that they saw the need to establish laws and fix. Before slavery even : ( Abraham Lincoln did patent/copyright work (he was a lawyer) before becoming president.

Maybe I'm just old school, but I like owning my own albums. I like owning my own hard drive space (No, I don't want to pay you for off site storage!) I'm not a fan of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. Or maybe I'm just getting old.

I find Spotify to be painful to listen to, but I'm just a freebie user...perhaps that's the reason.

Kaan, post: 446164, member: 50244 wrote: Spotify = giving away for free anyway. Artists doesn't make money out of Spotify.

I refuse to offer my content on Spotify and all of these other sites that stream your content for free. 1 cent doesn't cut it for me.

Dr_Willie_OBGYN, post: 446551, member: 25832 wrote: I refuse to offer my content on Spotify and all of these other sites that stream your content for free. 1 cent doesn't cut it for me.

That's what everybody should do at once to kill this Madness.
On the other hand, many artists would never be known by anyone if they didn't give away their music in some way.
Where it gets insane is when the artist looses the control over it.

I'd be surprise to talk to U2 and ask what came up from their deal with Apple.

pcrecord, post: 446591, member: 46460 wrote: I'd be surprise to talk to U2 and ask what came up from their deal with Apple.

Do you get to do that often? I could give The Edge a ring, Bono and I are on the outs currently. ;)

pcrecord, post: 446591, member: 46460 wrote: Where it gets insane is when the artist looses the control over it.

I don't know why record companies allow their content to be given away for 4 tenths of 1 cent per download. They fought hard to stop Napster back in the day. These on-demand streaming sites are basically like Napster but paying peanuts. Maybe someone from a record company can explain why they allow it. These on-demand streaming sites must cannibalize sales. Why else would Taylor Swift and others withhold their music from these sites?

I use Tunecore for digital distribution. At one point they automatically (without my authorization) put my stuff up on Spotify, eMusic, Deezer, Rhapsody, Amazon Unlimited and all of the rest of them. I quickly contacted them and said take that shit down.

Dr_Willie_OBGYN, post: 446603, member: 25832 wrote: I don't know why record companies allow their content to be given away for 4 tenths of 1 cent per download. They fought hard to stop Napster back in the day. These on-demand streaming sites are basically like Napster but paying peanuts. Maybe someone from a record company can explain why they allow it. These on-demand streaming sites must cannibalize sales. Why else would Taylor Swift and others withhold their music from these sites?

I use Tunecore for digital distribution. At one point they automatically (without my authorization) put my stuff up on Spotify, eMusic, Deezer, Rhapsody, Amazon Unlimited and all of the rest of them. I quickly contacted them and said take that $*^t down.

Maybe companies get more out of the deals?

We know artists get that much of an amount but it is the artist's share. I've never read anything about record companies' share from Spotify or other streaming services.

Even if they get 2 1/2 times more (1 cent) then is that worth it? I don't think so.