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Death Metal Vocals

I was wondering if anyone knows how to get the effect that is used in a lot of death metal on the vocals. A great example of the is "Dead by Dawn" by Deicide, the sounds of the growling and screams in the beginning. It's sort of a phasing type sound that I have heard on many Deicide songs and also some Bloodbath songs like "The Soulcollector".

Def Leppard Vocals

I'm wondering if anyone knows how Def Leppard would have gone about recording vocals on their albums... they tend to use a lot of layers... however their is always the dominant voice that sticks out... Has anyone played around and tried to get this sound? The singer isn't fantastic... but sounds great on recording...

Regards,
Spiro

are those vocals really that dry?

i record a lot of hardcore and punk bands and a lot of the albums refrenced sound like the vocals are very dry but full. i have played around with keeping the vocals dry but they endup just sounding kind of naked and not blending into the song. i was just wondering what some tips are to give the "illusion" of dry vocals but still have them sit well in the mix.

thanks

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