Lee,
You only have 2 inputs, one mic and one pre amp.. I don't see haow you could record the keys in stereo at all, much less do that and record a vocal too. Sorry, If you had a small mixer that could accept the 2 line is and the one mic, you could mix all three together and record a stereo track out of that. .... Kurt

Hi there, Kurt. The correct inputs I described was a LINE IN....and a crapola MIC IN. I guess you know what I meant as you have more experience than me I am sure! :s:

What I have been doing, is first recording my mostly finished/EQ'D/mixed stereo sequenced tracks direct into sound card (line-in)...in STEREO...into Cool Edit. Then, laying down vocal tracks (with "half" headphone monitoring) was next. Easy, simple...but TWO procedures, nonetheless. I was wondering if this can be achieved with the existing soundcard that I have. Either yes or no I guess. I might need to get a "big boy" card like one of the Delta series. THAT'S gist of my inquiry. Just want to able to sit down at my keys to sing and record simultaneously...and get it all down on two tracks for starters, a single vocal track for me to work with, and of course the stereo keyboard sequenced track that might need a little work as well. I am sorry if I have been unclear. ~~Lee

Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
Lee,
You only have 2 inputs, one mic and one pre amp.. I don't see haow you could record the keys in stereo at all, much less do that and record a vocal too. Sorry, If you had a small mixer that could accept the 2 line is and the one mic, you could mix all three together and record a stereo track out of that. .... Kurt

Lee,
In that case you should be able to get the three in at the same time. Line stereo and mic in . There should be some kind of mixing facility for this in your OS software. Is this a Windows machine or a Mac? Kurt

Hi Kurt. I stated I have a Dell. It ain't no Mac. LOL! I was told never to use the mic input due to the crappy pre-amp and circuitry involved. I am attaching some info from the manufacturer which might shed some light on this particular card. I really appreciate your help on this, friend. Hope this helps you to help wittle' ole' me.~~~Lee

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Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
Lee,
In that case you should be able to get the three in at the same time. Line stereo and mic in . There should be some kind of mixing facility for this in your OS software. Is this a Windows machine or a Mac? Kurt

Lee,
Sorry, I missed that. I didn't go back and re read the whole thread... Well, if you don't want to use that input then the only solution if you want to record more than 2 tracks at once is to get a new sound card. I don't know of any other answer. Perhaps a USB input would work in tandem with your soundcard, I don't know for sure... Check with OPUS in the computing forum.. If you like I could transfer this thread over there.. Kurt
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BTW: Having chickens is like being pecked to death by children.

Could you please transfer this over, Kurt? Bill Roberts speaks VERY highly of OPUS, and I am sure OPUS will have a better idea of the capability of this particular soundcard, especially with the links submitted. Thanks very much once again! ~~~Lee

Originally posted by Kurt Foster:
Lee,
Sorry, I missed that. I didn't go back and re read the whole thread... Well, if you don't want to use that input then the only solution if you want to record more than 2 tracks at once is to get a new sound card. I don't know of any other answer. Perhaps a USB input would work in tandem with your soundcard, I don't know for sure... Check with OPUS in the computing forum.. If you like I could transfer this thread over there.. Kurt
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BTW: Having chickens is like being pecked to death by children.

Lee,
We all think and speak highly of OPUS.. but don't let that influence you... :D Yes I will transfer the whole thread over to computing. I am sure that OPUS will be able to steer you in the right direction .. Kurt

Shite, Kurt. I just noted your variation of my "chicken" line. Lovez it! Thanks for moving me over. No lost luggage. No stop-over to speak of. No crappy in-flight meals. I'll be hanging here having a smoke. :D Yes I will transfert he whole tread over to computing. I am sure that OPUS will be able to steer you in the right direction .. Kurt

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Ok, the mic input on a generic sound card such as yours is a different mic input than you think it is. It's made more for the head set microphones and not a diaphargm style mic as it does not allow you to increase the gain to a proper line input level!

So, in the long run you can not do this with that type of sound card. Highly recommend you spend the extra money and get yourself a sound card that will be able to do what you need.

Generic soundcards will not work to a certain point as it can not handle the true buffering that todays programs require with plug ins and VSTi's and so forth.

Opus

Hi Opus. Thanks for responding. I am pretty aware about that nasty little mic input. :) I was still just wondering if you went to the links to the Turtle Beach website I included in my last post. This "versa jack" thingamabob is what has me thinking I may actually be able to record a stereo keyboard track (thru line-in) AND a separate mono vocal track (thru versa jack), negating even thinking about using the "mic" input. The reason for all of this is to be able to make a fairly high quality recording "on the fly" as inspiration "consumes" my artistic bowels. (playing/recording a keys/sequence AND singing/recording.... utilizing headphones as a monitor for both and hoping keybed noise will be negligable) Am I making sense, or am I trying to achieve the unachievable with my current setup? Thanks again, ~~~Lee.

P.S. The dragon is in a 12-step fire-breathing reduction program. :)

Originally posted by Opus2000:
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HA HA HA HA HA!!

Love it!!

Ok, the mic input on a generic sound card such as yours is a different mic input than you think it is. It's made more for the head set microphones and not a diaphargm style mic as it does not allow you to increase the gain to a proper line input level!

So, in the long run you can not do this with that type of sound card. Highly recommend you spend the extra money and get yourself a sound card that will be able to do what you need.

Generic soundcards will not work to a certain point as it can not handle the true buffering that todays programs require with plug ins and VSTi's and so forth.

Opus

P.S. The dragon is in a 12-step fire-breathing reduction program.

Why don't you channel your fire-breathing toward more productive activities and roast some of those children...*AHEM*...I mean, chickens you have. lol

I have three(children/chickens) that run around here like they have there heads chopped off, lol. Sometimes I wish I could breathe fire. :s:

Originally posted by Blutone:

P.S. The dragon is in a 12-step fire-breathing reduction program.

Why don't you channel your fire-breathing toward more productive activities and roast some of those children...*AHEM*...I mean, chickens you have. lol

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Originally posted by Blutone:
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You ain't right, man.

You haven't even scratched the surface, Bluey!

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A dual way jack? Ouch! You want quality out of that? I don't think so man!

Working for an audio hardware company I can tell you right off the bat that isn't going to happen with such a card like that!

Your noise floor is going to be shit, your input dynamic range is going to be shit!

Basically it is duable but with crap results!

You want quality don't use that card. That's all I can say!

It's a generic converter with no buffering help in any way!

Opus

Originally posted by Opus2000:
EEEEEK :) Would I be able to get a decent sound card with these qualities for under 3 bills? I know of the Delta 44 and have heard good things. (I have need NO midi capability whatsoever). Sorry for all the follow-up questions, but once again, I "gotsta know". Thanks again. ~~~Lee