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Many people say that the most important part of an audio set up (especially the complicated DAW Pro Tools HD) is processing power. Without ample processing power, you will be left only wishing you could use the plugins you bought.

Digi designs solution is processing cards, providing 900 mhz of power each. These cards are damn expensive.

What are some of your solutions?

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anonymous Tue, 03/09/2010 - 12:14

I'm looking to keep everything digital, so I don't think that is what I'm looking for. I think what I'm wishing for is ubuntu compatability. So that way I could build a cluster. But ATM, i don't give a damn about learning how to build a cluster.

Is there anything that would give me more processing power, like a cluster, but would work with windows xp. It is my understanding that this is called cloud computing.

hueseph Tue, 03/09/2010 - 19:19

Define expensive and fat. I use ProTools LE and Samplitude and have used Cubase,Tracktion and Acid in the past. I did invest in a dsp card which helps to alleviate the load but in all a well configured current CPU should be able to handle a fairly large track count. You see the limit but you haven't reached it yet. What are you trying to get at here?

djmukilteo Tue, 03/09/2010 - 20:49

omynys1, post: 343635 wrote: I'm looking to keep everything digital, so I don't think that is what I'm looking for. I think what I'm wishing for is ubuntu compatability. So that way I could build a cluster. But ATM, i don't give a damn about learning how to build a cluster.

Is there anything that would give me more processing power, like a cluster, but would work with windows xp. It is my understanding that this is called cloud computing.

Wow?!
Cloud computing, ubuntu compatibility??....I could build a cluster??...WindowsXP....??!!!
Either you're just really confused about something and all over the place and don't know what you're talking about or there's actually some point to this thread?
You continue using terms that mean nothing in context and still haven't asked a meaningful question here, other than your frustrated?
And then after the terminology spew, you go off on a digital technology rant, but want to keep everything digital??
Not trying to be negative at all here....but is there actually something you want help with or is this just a rant? I'm confused now?
Maybe a little info on your system would be a clue...maybe buy a vowel....maybe you need to setup a PlayStation Unix cluster and see if that will suffice for your needs whatever those are?

anonymous Wed, 03/10/2010 - 07:09

I obviously don't want a dsp card because they dont work with digi......

In a perfect world I would have a mother board with 6 bagillion processor slots, and 12 thousand pci slots, so that I would be turning out so many tera flops, I would be able to eq stuff 16 thousand times.

Ooooooooooooooooor........ A pro tools ubuntu compatability.... so i could use a cluster, and just build the cluster.

TheJackAttack Wed, 03/10/2010 - 07:18

omynys1, post: 343681 wrote: I obviously don't want a dsp card because they dont work with digi......

In a perfect world I would have a mother board with 6 bagillion processor slots, and 12 thousand pci slots, so that I would be turning out so many tera flops, I would be able to eq stuff 16 thousand times.

Ooooooooooooooooor........ A pro tools ubuntu compatability.... so i could use a cluster, and just build the cluster.

Ok big guy. Build it. It's not needed in the professional world but it might be your Field of Dreams. You might be the critical mass that sends Ubuntu into global domination! Why, if only the military industrial complex had something like that available to them back when McCarthy was emperor.

boxcar Wed, 03/10/2010 - 19:14

o.k. maybe it's time for someone to straighten me out, i must be missing the point?
i've never used protools or digi. or macs so i just don't know anything about that platform.

i have a home built dedicated machine.
an athlon 3500 processor
triton motherboard
blue thunder power supply
78000 rpm raptor drive
only 2 gigs of ram
Xp home

my average project size before i got more into outboard gear was about 35 to 40 tracks on average.
i would run track e.q's on pretty much every track
i would have approx.20 /25 plugs going on top of that(waves,renesance,tc electronics...ect.
comps/reverbs/delays/de-essers/gates and more that i can't even remember.

i have a 48 track project that we jam to and record 6 more of our vocal and instrument tracks simoultaniously to it with all those plugs going.
i never have to reboot,nuendo never freezes up, i tell it what to do ,it does it.
and now im also using convolution effects.

i guess what im asking is how much power does a guy need, especially if you have some outboard.
and what's wrong with protools and/or mac that it's always running out of plug power.
mine is by no means a huge computer, i've heard things like quad 4 and 10 gigs of ram.
o.k. let me have it.

hueseph Wed, 03/10/2010 - 20:17

Plugins are getting more and more complex and realistic. ProTools is getting to be more and more of a resource hog. The CPU you are using is antiquated. Single core CPUs simply don't cut it anymore. Not just because of the number of cores but also due to architecture.

ProTools is also very restricted when it comes to hardware and software compatibility.

Regardless, if you are using Nuendo with success, why worry about what the potential is? Stick to what works.

boxcar Wed, 03/10/2010 - 20:43

hueseph, post: 343728 wrote: Plugins are getting more and more complex and realistic. ProTools is getting to be more and more of a resource hog. The CPU you are using is antiquated. Single core CPUs simply don't cut it anymore. Not just because of the number of cores but also due to architecture.

ProTools is also very restricted when it comes to hardware and software compatibility.

Regardless, if you are using Nuendo with success, why worry about what the potential is? Stick to what works.

i'll definitly stick with this system.it it rocks for an antiquated proccessor.lol
does the better cpu combined with protools sound better? is there an advantage?
i was just curious.

boxcar Wed, 03/10/2010 - 21:35

good to know.
i have 0 info about the mac/protool platform.
funny thing is just when plug-ins are getting better,i don't really use them anymore.a few gates and
track e.q's just for hi and low pass.
i only record my own stuff now and use all outboard with the zed r16.
but who knows 6 months from now. ha

djmukilteo Wed, 03/10/2010 - 21:40

boxcar, post: 343751 wrote: good to know.
i have 0 info about the mac/protool platform.
funny thing is just when plug-ins are getting better,i don't really use them anymore.a few gates and
track e.q's just for hi and low pass.
i only record my own stuff now and use all outboard with the zed r16.
but who knows 6 months from now. ha

boxcar:
I would really like to hear some tunes from your ZEDR16!

boxcar Wed, 03/10/2010 - 22:01

djmukilteo, post: 343753 wrote: boxcar:
I would really like to hear some tunes from your ZEDR16!

i appreciate that but im not ready to to let go of any material yet.
im kinda funny that way, i have 14 songs that were working on and they just don't sound ready to me yet and i don't know wich way to go yet with them either.
i gotta say though, i really like the r16 for what im doing here.i use those pre's for just about everything.they really do the job quite nicely.

AudioWonderland Thu, 03/11/2010 - 05:24

omynys1, post: 343612 wrote: Many people say that the most important part of an audio set up (especially the complicated DAW Pro Tools HD) is processing power. Without ample processing power, you will be left only wishing you could use the plug ins you bought.

Digi designs solution is processing cards, providing 900 mhz of power each. These cards are damn expensive.

What are some of your solutions?

My solution is to not use ProTools. There are so many quality apps out there that locking yourself into a closed system just doesn't make sense anymore. I run Reaper on a Quad core and have yet to hit the limits of my processor. If I do, Reaper has a feature called Remote that lets me link up additional PC's to offload plugin processing to.