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RecoderMan Drum OH Technique...

I've read through the original post many times but I still can't get it right. Can someone 'dumb-down' the setup of this technique for Drum OHs? I just got a set of Studio Projects C4's and I'd like to use them in this method.

Please no flames about the mic choice. Just the facts about setting up and using the RecorderMan Technique.

Thanks,

Chris

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Randyman... Wed, 05/31/2006 - 16:11
I can't ever seem to get this to work w/o having the mics where I will invaribly smack them. So I tried ORTF instead - and it also works VERY well IMO. Also good for small rooms. Add some low-end boost to compensate for the lack of proximity effect, and you can achieve a huge punchy and coherent sound...

:cool:

BobRogers Wed, 05/31/2006 - 19:43
Here's my distilation of the directions. I always use a tape measure.

1. Put mic 1 about 32" over the center of the snare.
2. Measure the distance from mic 1 to the center of the bass drum. Suppose, for example it is 41".
3. Put mic 2 over the drummers right shoulder (assuming he is drumming right handed) at a point that is both 32" from the center of the snare and 41" from the center of the bass drum.
4. Adjust the direction of the mics to position the kick in the center of the stereo field when the channels are panned left and right.

The most important point is to have the mics equidistant from both the snare and the kick. (For the mathematically inclined, there is a circle of such points given by the intersection of the two spheres centered at the snare and the kick.... I'm sure that was a big help.)

Pro Audio Guest Wed, 09/27/2006 - 01:48
I have tried recorderman method. Pretty good results, but I got some phasing problems on crash cymbals and (not sure) on hihat. Left mic is 34" over snare. Anyone had the same problem?

I'm still learing to hear and eliminate phasing problems. And it's difficult to me to hear phasing issues with headphones on (Sennheiser MD280) cause I am standing near to drumset and source sound (from cymbals) are very loud - compare to monitor sound in headphones. It drown the monitor sound. But I heard it in recoring later. It's "fiiijjaaauaauauaauuaauu" type of sound. Strange, but sometimes cybal hits are OK. Perhaps I'll upload some samples of recordings.

Anyway, I find it hard to set right OH mic properly, because I have to record some and then listen to it, then move mic and so on... Any suggestions?

Tnx,
Rok

Pro Audio Guest Thu, 01/11/2007 - 11:53
Rokoko wrote: I have tried recorderman method. Pretty good results, but I got some phasing problems on crash cymbals and (not sure) on hihat. Left mic is 34" over snare. Anyone had the same problem?

I'm still learing to hear and eliminate phasing problems. And it's difficult to me to hear phasing issues with headphones on (Sennheiser MD280) cause I am standing near to drumset and source sound (from cymbals) are very loud - compare to monitor sound in headphones. It drown the monitor sound. But I heard it in recoring later. It's "fiiijjaaauaauauaauuaauu" type of sound. Strange, but sometimes cybal hits are OK. Perhaps I'll upload some samples of recordings.

Anyway, I find it hard to set right OH mic properly, because I have to record some and then listen to it, then move mic and so on... Any suggestions?

Tnx,
Rok
There seems to be one big issue with this technique. Which is the 3 to 1 rule. I am not surprised at all that there is phase issue.
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