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This is as comprehensive as I could get. There may be a few stragglers that I left out. If that is the case please say so. There's Bias Peak Studio but I don't eve know if people use that. Do they? Let me know.

Please vote for all that apply.

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sachit Fri, 04/13/2012 - 00:03

Interesting poll, the old one was indeed too old... I'd like to see how many Studio One and Reaper users are here. Looks like I'm the first Logic guy to vote here. Not surprising, considering that even I'm a bit worried about the future of Logic. I'm no upgrade freak but it's bordering on five upgrade-less years now...

audiokid Fri, 04/13/2012 - 08:31

Yes, I believe you can edit the poll, there is a pencil icon that appears above the title you click. But I added Audition just in case you aren't able.
We should really have them in A to Z order and be sure all DAW's are listed. I'm not up on all the options. Do we have them all now? If we have them then we are good yes?

If not, maybe starting over would be a good thing since this thread is going to be a round a long time.

Thoughts?

Laurend Fri, 04/20/2012 - 08:59

superiorinferior, post: 388379 wrote: I really wish logic became the standard and not Pro Tools. Logic is just so much more powerful and efficient. There's definitely a lot to learn but you can do everything and you don't have to buy a specific hardware or software.

ProTools (Digidesign) was first on the market. It's now native also. I don't know which feature is missing on the last version. All DAWs have their own workflow. It's just a matter of taste.

hueseph Fri, 04/20/2012 - 10:40

Pro Tools and it's defenders seem to have locked themselves in a cave. They don't want to accept that other DAWs have surpassed their capabilities. With a quality interface and just about any other DAW, you can do anything that you can do in Pro Tools. That is speaking strictly audio of course. As far as midi is concerned, PT has well been surpassed. Unfortunately, there is nothing that comes close to PT when it comes to Audio Post. Having all those DSPs can make a very large (150+ tracks) run a lot smoother. And for what it's worth, that is their target market. They could care less about the audio community.

Eraserfish Thu, 11/15/2012 - 07:32

Looks like I'm the retarded less than one percent; in fact I'm not actually listed. I use Reason 6 which encorporates Record so I selected Propellerhead Record for Mac. Reason used to be just a fun way to record a bunch of synth and percussion stuff and then export it to another DAW, but with the addition of Record and the new mixer based on the SSl 9000K it has become a creative music making monster. Probably still more for the artist than the engineer, but it's ability to work in virtual racks and plug anything in to anything is just too cool for me to ever get rid of. Why the heck is Reaper so popular? I'd like to try it if it's that crazy good.

hueseph Thu, 11/15/2012 - 14:26

Reaper has some things that "Record" doesn't. The main thing being VST support. Anyone who has used a DAW for any amount of time probably has some money invested in plugins. I wouldn't buy a DAW that forces me to abandon those.

I've tried Record and I didn't like it. I don't like the workflow. But, I've grown accustomed to using other DAWs (Cubase, Pro Tools, Samplitude, Sonar)and their workflows are so similar. I find Record to be a strain on the eyes and the desktop. I don't like having to scroll so much to get the the section of the channel strip that I want. I suppose if Reason is your thing, Record will come easy to you. I played with it for a few days and just felt like I was swimming up stream. For myself, not intuitive at all.

Reaper really is a nice DAW. I don't personally use it but it has nice features and is every bit as functional as many, more expensive DAWs. Plus, it's not crippled like some other companies like to do. One software with two licensing options. It's [[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.reaper.f…"]free to try for 30 days. [/]="http://www.reaper.f…"]free to try for 30 days. [/]

Eraserfish Thu, 11/15/2012 - 22:09

I used to work like this- Reason for drums and synths, exported into ableton live where i would add instruments and vocals, and then everything through samplitude for mix down. It was okay but lots of work. My life is much simpler now using just Reason 6 and I think my results are cleaner without tweaking. Some times simpler is better at least as far as creativity goes. I do think propellerhead sucks for not using VST's. They have a new thing called rack extensions that should be cool but second party VST's will have to be specifically approved by propellerhead. They are very anal about not having VST's crash a session.
I've been talking to some of the hybrid folks, and may eventually go that route with a summing mixer and more external gear to sweeten up final mixes.

kmetal Fri, 11/16/2012 - 01:20

man looks like i'[m in the minority w/ digital performer. it's up to my boss at the studio, and took me a little while to adjust to it from pt audition and reaper, but it grew on me alot and to me competes w/ PTHD as far as features, software wise. overall a very stable program and easy to get most things done fast.

i think the use of nuendo and logic being so high is a testament to so many people doing electronic based programming these days, vs live recording. for me PT and digital performer have the most to the point workflow. beating out ableton, cubase, audition, vegas and reaper. Although i will say audition (1.5) has the best sounding stock plug-insof any of them.

Olijanovi Thu, 11/22/2012 - 10:33

I found my plugins not running well in Reaper... that's why I stick to Logic. Also the whole look of Logic, seems more accurate to me. It probably comes from working a lot with it.

Furthermore, the whole key command thing is so important. I get so frustrated when I switch between Logic and Pro Tools and Reaper, which is another reason why I stick to Logic

TheJackAttack Thu, 11/22/2012 - 11:06

Plugins that are utilizing some proprietary VST standard could be buggy in Reaper. Also, some 32 bit plugs might be problematic in 64bit Reaper but that has NOT been my experience with any recent version of Reaper. Hacked plugins don't even deserve a comment.

Workflow is a valid concern. The help file and PDF Reaper book is so well written that this ceases to be much of a concern for a pro audio engineer unless there is already a prejudice towards a particular DAW.

anonymous Tue, 12/18/2012 - 18:56

I think it all really comes down to familiarity.

Years ago I was a Pro Tools user, but in those days, PT's implementation of midi along with digital audio was clunky and a bit of a drag.

I moved to Sonar simply because the integration of audio and midi was so much better at that time, although I'm sure they must have gotten a handle on that since, this was around 1998 or so, so that's a lot of miles under the tires.

I'm not a DAW snob. The main factor to consider, along with budget, is simply this: Does it do what you need it to do?

Essentially, they all do the same thing, so at that point, it really becomes about what you like working with, what you've grown used to. After so many years with Sonar, these days I can get around it almost with my eyes closed... so for me, the workflow is fine because I'm used to it.

For some it's Reaper, others Logic, some Cubase, Studio One, Ableton... and there are certainly a multitude of Digi users out there.

If I were still in business, I would likely go with Pro Tools merely because of industry recognition and the fact that it's become a studio standard... but I don't think my product would sound any better just because I was using it. there's no magical "Make Me Not Suck" function in any recording platform, the best you can hope for is that it accurately reproduces what you put into it. What you do with it from there is up to you.

In the end, it all comes down to the engineer anyway, and whatever one uses to create music is fine as long as it fills their criteria and supports productivity.

IMHO of course.

tmon Wed, 11/20/2013 - 15:35

I've been using this little-known DAW called [[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.multitra…"]Multitrack Studio Pro Plus[/]="http://www.multitra…"]Multitrack Studio Pro Plus[/]. It is elegant in its simplicity and super-stable, both on Windoze and OSX (I use it on Mavericks). Doesn't get much love, as it's a one-man band, Giel Bremmers, with little-to-no marketing budget. It's dirt cheap, has a puny footprint (memory-wise). It doesn't have a candy-like GUI, nor hype surrounding it. It just friggin' works. The coding seems to be quite elegant. A true renegade in this market, IMHO.

BTW, I've had no problems with VST plugins and MTS Pro Plus.

Maybe it will make a poll one day.

hueseph Fri, 11/22/2013 - 23:24

tmon, post: 408467 wrote: I've been using this little-known DAW called [[url=http://[/URL]="http://www.multitra…"]Multitrack Studio Pro Plus[/]="http://www.multitra…"]Multitrack Studio Pro Plus[/]. It is elegant in its simplicity and super-stable, both on Windoze and OSX (I use it on Mavericks). Doesn't get much love, as it's a one-man band, Giel Bremmers, with little-to-no marketing budget. It's dirt cheap, has a puny footprint (memory-wise). It doesn't have a candy-like GUI, nor hype surrounding it. It just friggin' works. The coding seems to be quite elegant. A true renegade in this market, IMHO.

BTW, I've had no problems with VST plugins and MTS Pro Plus.

Maybe it will make a poll one day.

Checked it out. Looks functional. Simple. Maybe it's good for some but for what it is, Reaper can be had for the same price. The interface is a bit more complex but Reaper is a DAW that grows more powerful with your experience. IE: the better you get at using it, the more powerful it gets.

sepulchre Thu, 12/19/2013 - 21:41

I've used Sonar since it was Cakewalk 2.0 (long and long ago). I also like Reason a lot but use it more as a rewire from Sonar though I have written a few songs just using it. However, for whatever 'reason' Reason decided to quit working on my laptop (yeah, I've tried everything - that's for another thread), which sucks - it's my go to instrument creation work place.
Anyway, I've recently been reading about Studio One - 2 and it seems doable so I got it. Still getting familiar with it but was wondering if anyone can shed any gems of wisdom about it, pro or con.

Thx, Ken

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