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How many of you send the snare track to a stereo reverb, send the reverb to a different bus and mix it in with the dry snare track and how many of you send a reverb to a mono aux and just add as much (or as little) reverb directly the dry snare itself? What seems to work better? Or is it, like most things, a case by case deal? Just curious...Thanks.

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anonymous Tue, 04/06/2004 - 07:39

Or is it, like most things, a case by case deal?

All things are case by case.

try sitting the snare on a hard wood floor. then mic it in stereo right up against the shell. Now put a speaker cone flat on the head and play the snare make through it while tracking. I've never done this and it might be crap to hear. But you seems like it might give a really punchy glow like a flash bulb.

anonymous Tue, 04/06/2004 - 09:49

Mono or stereo send for my snare

A good reverberation unit (like a tc or a Lex) will create a reverb return that has no correlation between Left and Right channels (in stereo) It is a quality. In fact, by listening to the reverb return in solo, your ears should not be able to detect the original position of the source (dry signal) no matter how you panned it. The same thing would happen if you sat at the very end of a cathedral, listened to music and closed your eyes... Of course, that is true for large spaces where the sound wave has plenty of time to bounce back and forth against many walls and the time arrivals of all the resulting reflections create smooth reverberation. Don't expect this with small rooms such as a bathroom algorythm, where the first reflections are strong, colour the sound heavily and give you the clue that the space is small.

What you can try too is to feed stereo signal to both input of your unit and make it work as two different engines running the same algorythm.

I hope I made myself clear, english is not my first language.

Cheers

anonymous Wed, 04/07/2004 - 00:02

are you using pro tools ? if so what reverb plugin do you use... Times that i have put reverb on a snare or drums in general .. I use the Rverb with about a 1-2 sec decay with the early reflections cranked and the reverb about -6db down with 100% wet mix on a aux channel, and then just mix it to the drums... does any do this... or is this a bad way to do it?

realdynamix Wed, 04/07/2004 - 03:46

noit wrote:

....try sitting the snare on a hard wood floor. then mic it in stereo right up against the shell. Now put a speaker cone flat on the head and play the snare make through it while tracking.

:D There is a little more to that I think, but I remember freaking out when I read that on usenet several years ago. I remember, it was on a stand, the speaker was wired to an amp and the feed came from a direct out from the snare track, unassigned. The idea was to crank it till the snares just started to "sing", as I recall the poster. The mics in the room were placed or best pick-up. This would be great for tight shuffle, or a rock-a-billy(sp) type sound. Anyway it was interesting to find that, and is one of my favorite "Urban Legend snare micing story's". :)

:D You mention early reflections, but don't forget pre-delay. I like stereo, so I use a left and right on the returns or aux channels. I keep the return 100% wet, because on my Lex, the early reflections are combined through the verb but appear dry at the output, so even at 100% if you crank the ER it still comes through.

Some of the ER's are very short, 5ms etc. so you have to be careful not to add too much without creating a swishy comb filtering effect going to mono. It is a brain cue thing and a little goes a long way.

--Rick

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