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i ve been recording in my home studio for many years
i used an RMEfireface 800 and RMEmictasy mic preamp all these years
but now i am going to open my own pro studio

here is my setup now

APPLE MAC PRO 8 CORE 3,2GHZ
AVALON VT-737SP
Focusrite RED 1
AMS Neve 1073 DPD
TUBE-TECH MEC

Neumann..Shure and AKG mics

and klein + hummel monitors

i ve reached a point that i think i should work with pro tools
i ve never used the before...and i want some opinion..
i know for sure that i ll get the HD 2
but i dont know what interface or interfaces i should have that will go better for my setup
should i go with the 192 plus and 8 analoge input expansion card..
or for two 96 and a good converter?
sorry for my english guys if they are not so good..i am greek..hehe

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Codemonkey Tue, 03/25/2008 - 16:33

Like basilbowman I've never used ProTools, but the general opinion here is that ProTools is expensive and horrible to use. It's only used because of corporate domination, really.
If you're set on it, fair enough.

However, 192KHz is a joke IMO. For most needs you're better to stick with 96KHz and cut your processing and disk space needed in half, yet still retaining at least 99% of noticable quality.

anonymous Wed, 03/26/2008 - 04:08

I just saw a post, I forget where, with REMY saying something along the lines of "If you need to learn PT, you can do it in about a week, thusly the only reason to learn it now is because there are a huge amount of books, tutorials, DVDS, etc. for PT." Paraphrased to be sure, but if it comes from REMY it must be useful, eh?

Nathan

BobRogers Wed, 03/26/2008 - 04:52

basilbowman wrote: I just saw a post, I forget where, with REMY saying something along the lines of "If you need to learn PT, you can do it in about a week, thusly the only reason to learn it now is because there are a huge amount of books, tutorials, DVDS, etc. for PT." Paraphrased to be sure, but if it comes from REMY it must be useful, eh?

Nathan

Whoa there Nathan - that came from me, and while it's still my opinion, I know a lot less about recording than Remy, so it should be taken with a grain of salt. Also, my comment was directed at someone starting a home studio who didn't (yet) need to meet the expectations of paying clients. Capellino's question seems to me more of a marketing question for a pro studio. He's looking at PT in order to satisfy clients. I certainly have no idea what clients expect in Greece, so I don't feel I can give him any advice. I guess my opinion can be summarized as "I want to use PT because the pros use it" is a bad reason; "I want to use PT because my clients want it" is a good reason - but to use that reason, you have to have clients, and they have to want PT.

audiokid Thu, 03/27/2008 - 21:13

Been sequencing and sampling for near 30 years. When I was introduced to PT back in the 90's, it operated like the rest of the high end gear I was used to... Totally Logical.

I've been using PT for 10 years. IMHO, its popular for a reason.
I'm dated with PT 24 mix plus++ and when I can afford to upgrade, I will continue to be a PT junky.

Kev Fri, 03/28/2008 - 02:24

I use Pro Tools and have done since Mix 4.0
I was on Sound Tools and worked on the early ProTools
... skipped the PT16 years
while I was on Deck and had ADATs
( want to buy some ADATs anyone ? complete with BRC )

currently on an HD2 and still mostly work at 44.1/24
I have two 96IOs

was keen to try the 192 but budget and client demands just didn't warrant ithe expense
...
but was keen to try the soft clip thingy

as for advice
almost impossible without more info on your intentions and additional gear

the 192 does offer the slots and more AES
but
if you have a simple set-up and don't intend to go past 96k then keep things simple and save the money
OR
UP the number of I/Os
OR
get more DSP
??

need more info

MadMax Fri, 03/28/2008 - 03:33

capellino wrote: i ve reached a point that i think i should work with pro tools
i ve never used the before...and i want some opinion..
i know for sure that i ll get the hd 2
but i dont know what interface or interfaces i should have that will go better for my setup
should i go with the 192 plus and 8 analoge input expansion card..
or for two 96 and a good converter?
sorry for my english guys if they are not so good..i am greek..hehe

capellino,

Your English is probably as good or better than mine, so don't apologize! (HA!)

You're already on the Mac platform, so ProTools will be a bit of a learning curve to get over. However, PT on the Apple platform was much easier to deal with than the Windows platform.

While I'm no PT expert by any means, what I have learned so far is that there are converters out there that will give you much more "bang for the buck". The first one that comes to mind is the Lynx Aurora-16 with HD interface card.

I'm an old analog console guy. I mix far quicker and better with knobs and faders in front of me, as opposed to just a mouse and keyboard. For me, the D-Command was the only choice if I was going to get into Pro Tools. This isn't true for everyone, so take that as just food for thought.

anonymous Fri, 03/28/2008 - 13:47

Max hit the nail on the head. The Lynx Aurora16 with the LT-HD interface option card is the absolute best way to interface with PT|HD. PT|HD is designed to work with the Digi 192 i/o and therefore all delay calculations and port configurations are specific to the Digi 192.

Lynx was very smart in their design and made sure that their LT-HD interface card made the Aurora16 sample accurate and port accurate to the exact specs of the Digi 192 i/o. Therefore, you do not need any Digi interfaces and can go with the much better sounding and much less expensive Lynx Aurora16.

The real cool thing about the Aurora16 is that it provides 16x16 analog AND 16x16 AES/EBU digital i/o simultaneously up to 192khz. It does this in a 1U form factor with no fan. To get the equivalent i/o using the Digi 192's you would need (2) fully populated 192 i/o's AND a digital 192 i/o.

You can use a single Aurora16 per card, so if you are going with an HD2 you can use two Aurora16's. This would give you 32x32 analog AND 32x32 AES/EBU digital in perfect configuration with PT|HD.

Hope that helps!

Alécio Costa Sun, 04/06/2008 - 06:54

Pro Tools is pretty easy to use. In 3 hours you can teach all the basic info to a friend, student, musician.

Generally all this BS bashing the DAw comes from people who have never operated a Mix/HD system.

I myself have 2 systems and have been pretty satisfied with it. Forget 192khz. Dan Lavry has proved it is a market hype over Nyquist Theorem.