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I havent even decided on a mac or pc yet becuse of this.

Lets see. there's Garage Band, Reason, Cakewalk/Sonar (are they even the same?) Nuendo, Cuebase, and of course Protools. I know theres plenty more, and there seems to be several versions of all of these. I wouldnt even know if I'm buying the most current version. They range from $100-3000.
How are they different? Theres no way to try them all.
What do you like and why?
What makes it better?

Im just trying to build a bedroom studio to do various projects.
I do want to crank out some high quality stuff at some point and I dont want a low class DAW holding me back.
I've been leaning towards Pro Tools, just because i know it cant be too bad. Is this a mistake?

Should i try to get any of this used to save some bucks?

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KurtFoster Sun, 08/29/2004 - 18:38

I work on an older version of Cubase, VST 5.1 and I am very happy with it. It does everything I need to do in a way that I understand. I can do up to 72 tracks and I can run as many plugs at once as I wish ... I am limited to 24/48 or 44.1 operation, but that's cool, It sounds great to meeeee!

All that being said, if I were to be starting over now .... I would probably lean in the direction you seem to be headed ... a PT le system (I would choose a PC / XP Pro based system) ... Not because it is better than everything else, because it isn't. It is very limited as to what choices you can make in terms of hardware and how many tracks you can run. That's the beauty of it, in one way. You won't have to fuss about which interface and sound card you want ... Digidesign makes that desicion for you ... it's going to be an M box, an 002 or a 002 rack. The software is already decided for you, PT le .... and what plugs you want will be limited to what runs with PT. When an annoying client asks for more overdubs, you can tell them "No can do .. we're out, 32 tracks is all I have." This can be a real time saver! Mixes will go faster because you have less to do ... Also you won't have to make any desicions regarding upgrades. They will be coming every 8 months or so like clock work and if you get behind, don't worry ... you can just buy another whole PT system every two years ... you are made entirely of money aren't you?

With PT you don't have to think or be bothered with all these pesky desicions .. software, sound card, interfaces or worry about conflict issues between different pieces of hardware, or if you can get a better deal somewhere. This way you won't have to learn your way around a computer ... another big plus. Last, you will be able to exchange files with all the other users of Pro Tools.

Opus2000 Sun, 08/29/2004 - 18:57

The argument against Pro Tools is that you are limited to the hardware you can use...only Digi boxes which can happily degrade your sound quality due to the cheap hardware and converters they use.

Yes, I work for Apogee electronics but it's made my eyes open up to the realization of why there are discrete converter boxes out there. Well designed converters will greatly improve the sound of your recordings. Digidesign converters are very mid rangy and don't have a lot of open space to them(Spatialization)

If you have some cash to spend get yourself a good converter to go in front of the digidesign box or go with a Native system like Cubase.

PC's are the way to go nowadays as they are for one less expensive, provide the same power as a mac can and you get to configure it any way you want to.

There are lots of solutions out there to choose from and everyone will give you their opinion which is of course just an opinion so take what people give you from their experience and go from there.

Opus

anonymous Wed, 09/01/2004 - 14:55

Kurt Foster wrote:
All that being said, if I were to be starting over now .... I would probably lean in the direction you seem to be headed ... a PT le system (I would choose a PC / XP Pro based system) ... Not because it is better than everything else, because it isn't. It is very limited as to what choices you can make in terms of hardware and how many tracks you can run. That's the beauty of it, in one way. You won't have to fuss about which interface and sound card you want ... Digidesign makes that desicion for you ... it's going to be an M box, an 002 or a 002 rack. The software is already decided for you, PT le .... and what plugs you want will be limited to what runs with PT. When an annoying client asks for more overdubs, you can tell them "No can do .. we're out, 32 tracks is all I have." This can be a real time saver! Mixes will go faster because you have less to do ... Also you won't have to make any desicions regarding upgrades. They will be coming every 8 months or so like clock work and if you get behind, don't worry ... you can just buy another whole PT system every two years ... you are made entirely of money aren't you?

With PT you don't have to think or be bothered with all these pesky desicions .. software, sound card, interfaces or worry about conflict issues between different pieces of hardware, or if you can get a better deal somewhere. This way you won't have to learn your way around a computer ... another big plus. Last, you will be able to exchange files with all the other users of Pro Tools.

Kurt, are you being sarcastic? I thought you were a Pro Tools hater?

I have PTLE with an 002 and if I could start all over again I would have gotten Cubase/Nuendo. That way I wouldn't be stuck with thier hardware.