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hi,
i have just acousticly treated my room and made huge upgrades to my equipment. including Avalon vt pre! I'm stoked about it all! my mic is the Neumann TLM 103 that i use on everything "acoustic". i want to start stereo recording instraments like dobro, mando, acoustic guitar, or anything else in the "string" family. what would be a great second mic to do this with the TLM 103(or should i at all?). ive been looking at the c451($300used) or sm81($250used). i want great results with a budget. ive also been thinking of saving my money a little longer and getting a c414gold($500used). are there any suggestions that could go into these or any other mics. I'm looking for the open "acoustic" sound. thanks a ton in advance! :D

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Markd102 Sat, 03/26/2005 - 16:31

How about a ribbon? Will get you a great acoustic sound. Risky to buy second hand though.

There's lots of options for condensers and you really need to try them and find out what works best for you. Maybe try a Soundelux or a Microtech Gefell. The Akg C-414 would be great too. Or a good budget new option might be an AT4050 or something like that.
I'd recommend all of these over the newer model Neumanns.

anonymous Sat, 03/26/2005 - 20:21

what ribbon mics would you recommend around the price range that im looking at? i forgot to say that i was interested in those also. one of my favorite engineers is justin niebank who recorded the thunder from down under kieth urban(saw where your an ausi), says hes a fannatic of ribbon mics. but, its hard for me to try out different mics without buying them first, cause no one around here has any :(

frob Sun, 03/27/2005 - 00:47

you already have a decent LDC mic so a ribbon would be a great choise royer makes a good ribbon for the money 1200US but i have not heard anythink good about any of the budget ribbons. if you need to get something now, try a SDC like the jofensen. or a good old dynamic there is the sm57 that no studio should be with out but on accoustics i like a mic that no one has really heard of an EV 636 there old and not made any more but i have three there a darker sounding mic designed for public adress but use it as a far off mic about 1M away and over the sound hole with your tlm about a palm from infront of the 14th fret and hard pan them. you will get a wwwiiidddeee sterio image.

anonymous Sun, 03/27/2005 - 08:20

happy easter everybody,
so i guess if im going for building up my project and i want quality stuff then i guess i should save and get a royer? ive heard good things about them also. im in that "cant make my mind up phase" cause i could get a good used c414. but i guess i would be going backwords a bit? i hate spending money, but i guess thats the buis were in huh. i already have the sm57. if theres any other directions to be pointed in then please holler at me! thanks!

KurtFoster Sun, 03/27/2005 - 16:01

SD "pencil" condensers are most often employed on violin / fiddles in acoustic string instrument recordings, like Bluegrass. For acoustic guitars, mandos and dobros I have been seeing the Shure KSM series or the ATM 4033s in use most of the time.

I have not had the pleasure of using the KSM mics yet but I have been the owner of a pair of 4033's for ten years and I can vouch that they are one of the best all purpose mics available.

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